If I am not mistaken, the current coaching staff took over in June 2018 and results have not been up to scratch. Of course there are other factors but judging from execution in the games, sometimes it seems the team plays without a clear plan or approach. For example, as recent as yesterday, the bowlers just seemed to be throwing it and hoping for the best.
All three main coaches honestly were not great during their playing days and I do not think they are good enough in terms of strategy and game plan. At best they are just trainers to me were Stuey can just throw a 100 balls to batsmen in the nets, but when it comes to how they strategize on how to approach a game, a match situation I do not see this being translated onto the field of play and the same can be said about the bowling department.
Are there any standards to which they have to live up to as coaches and who do they report to? It always seems as though it is business as usual, no pre or post match conferences where they face tough questions. This is not good for the development of the team. As it stands, the coaching staff has not been good enough and their CVs are not inspiring.
It is a big 2 to 3 years for us and we need the right people in charge. There has to be good coaches to nurture these youngsters and remove this culture of just showing up losing and no visible improvements. Cricket coaches need to have a very strong cricket brain and we are lacking very much there. They have lost enough and they must go. If Raza can go out in 3 consecutive TEST innings trying to hit a six, it shows a lack of accountability which further indicates how useless the coaches are to the players also.
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Should we lose 3-0 in the SL series, will this guy remain in charge?
Slowly becoming our longest serving coach for no good reason at all.
Slowly becoming our longest serving coach for no good reason at all.
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CholeZimbo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:06 am
Should we lose 3-0 in the SL series, will this guy remain in charge?
Slowly becoming our longest serving coach for no good reason at all.
Well we've given him a 2-year contract extension and I doubt ZC can afford to pay him off. So looks like we are stuck with him until 2023, unless he decides to leave himself.
Hate him so much.
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Has to be the luckiest man in the worked. Fail on all your KPIs for 3 years then get rewarded with another 2 years 😂 . Goes to show the level we at as a cricket nation. A glimpse of the government also.
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You'd think an independent (I doubt there's such a thing) journalist would just ask Mukhulani the question-
How is this guy still here?
"We're in a rebuilding phase, he has a vision and he needs time" I guess would be the stock answer. The truth of the matter is that Madhevere and Shumba showing some promise probably saved the guy, or was the excuse to extend his contract because he's cheap and pliable and conveniently never around. He's probably trying to figure out how to Video Coach so he can do it from home and stay out of Raza's way. He'd need to be fairly well paid and if he's got sense he will be saving every last penny because there's no job in cricket of consequence anywhere for him after this.
I think the KGB are more transparent than ZC.
How is this guy still here?
"We're in a rebuilding phase, he has a vision and he needs time" I guess would be the stock answer. The truth of the matter is that Madhevere and Shumba showing some promise probably saved the guy, or was the excuse to extend his contract because he's cheap and pliable and conveniently never around. He's probably trying to figure out how to Video Coach so he can do it from home and stay out of Raza's way. He'd need to be fairly well paid and if he's got sense he will be saving every last penny because there's no job in cricket of consequence anywhere for him after this.
I think the KGB are more transparent than ZC.
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After our fairly recent debacle with Phil Simmons… a less than average coach gifted a cushy long-term contract only to produce a string of terrible results, leading irregular dismissal -> long drawn, legal challenges, more global humiliation (as if we didn’t/don’t have enough to deal with as is)
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/simm ... atform=amp
We didn’t learn a damn thing…long -term contract to a bad coach, apparently with no performance clauses. Now we are stuck with this dud for years to come. He shouldn’t dare take credit for the emergence of Madhevere and Shumba, that had nothing to do with him. Wasn’t Gregg Lamb the U19 batting coach for Myers-Madhevere U19 but team?? Why doesn’t he get some credit? Now Rajput is being praised due to merely holding the post “coach” when these kids emerged
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/simm ... atform=amp
We didn’t learn a damn thing…long -term contract to a bad coach, apparently with no performance clauses. Now we are stuck with this dud for years to come. He shouldn’t dare take credit for the emergence of Madhevere and Shumba, that had nothing to do with him. Wasn’t Gregg Lamb the U19 batting coach for Myers-Madhevere U19 but team?? Why doesn’t he get some credit? Now Rajput is being praised due to merely holding the post “coach” when these kids emerged
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How many Matebeleland Tuskers matches has Rajput attended?? Which gem has he unearthed that this forum was not privy to? Has he used his Indian-ness to arrange much needed lucrative bilateral tours of any format? Couldn’t he even get domestic Indian teams to tour us or arrange for a Zim A team to tour India and play thier domestic teams, we did this once a decade ago.
Let me attempt to answer these questions…Rajput doesn’t give a damn about Zim cricket. He is as much a mercenary as the global T20 mercs, he is just in it for the paycheque, and given that he is also currently coaching an IPL team, I would hazard a guess that ZC $$ is supplementary income for him hence this being Zimbabwe, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that he is putting a little something in a ZC officials pocket!! There’s no justification whatsoever as to why he still has a iob
Let me attempt to answer these questions…Rajput doesn’t give a damn about Zim cricket. He is as much a mercenary as the global T20 mercs, he is just in it for the paycheque, and given that he is also currently coaching an IPL team, I would hazard a guess that ZC $$ is supplementary income for him hence this being Zimbabwe, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that he is putting a little something in a ZC officials pocket!! There’s no justification whatsoever as to why he still has a iob
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He's not even stepped foot in Zimbabwe since the day they departed for the Ireland tour. Presumably he might be arriving around about now for the pre-SL camp?
He's got the cushiest job in world cricket:
Sit at home in your home country and do nothing most of the year whilst picking up a full-time salary. Jet in for the occasional series and coach a team with zero expectations, for a boss (the board) who seemingly isn't that bothered how you perform anyway.
Conduct about 6 interviews a year with Givemore's cousins and old schoolmates who also happen to be the only active cricket journalists in the country.
No need to bother with domestic cricket.
Occasionally stumble upon a gem or two from our miracle-working schools, and then claim that is your 'philosophy' and needs more time.
Get a new 3-year contract with a pay rise.
Nice work if you can get it hey
He's got the cushiest job in world cricket:
Sit at home in your home country and do nothing most of the year whilst picking up a full-time salary. Jet in for the occasional series and coach a team with zero expectations, for a boss (the board) who seemingly isn't that bothered how you perform anyway.
Conduct about 6 interviews a year with Givemore's cousins and old schoolmates who also happen to be the only active cricket journalists in the country.
No need to bother with domestic cricket.
Occasionally stumble upon a gem or two from our miracle-working schools, and then claim that is your 'philosophy' and needs more time.
Get a new 3-year contract with a pay rise.
Nice work if you can get it hey
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:23 pm
He's not even stepped foot in Zimbabwe since the day they departed for the Ireland tour. Presumably he might be arriving around about now for the pre-SL camp?
He's got the cushiest job in world cricket:
Sit at home in your home country and do nothing most of the year whilst picking up a full-time salary. Jet in for the occasional series and coach a team with zero expectations, for a boss (the board) who seemingly isn't that bothered how you perform anyway.
Conduct about 6 interviews a year with Givemore's cousins and old schoolmates who also happen to be the only active cricket journalists in the country.
No need to bother with domestic cricket.
Occasionally stumble upon a gem or two from our miracle-working schools, and then claim that is your 'philosophy' and needs more time.
Get a new 3-year contract with a pay rise.
Nice work if you can get it hey
😂 😂 😂
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In the event that the Bennet brothers, Mitchell, Bawa and other u19 players do the extraordinary next month, are we really going to condemn them to Rajput “coaching” as they navigate the delicate devise between youth and pro-cricket?? If these kids are contemplating moving to the UK, doe’s Rajput care enough to convince them otherwise?
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The big problem for most u19's is getting a franchise slot immediately after the WC. The only guys that really walked into it were Shumba and Madhevere, others have struggled.
ZC need to be more pro-active in this regard. The standard needs to improve and there's a lot of dead wood in our system.
ZC need to be more pro-active in this regard. The standard needs to improve and there's a lot of dead wood in our system.
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ZC have made a big blunder by hanging onto Rajput. People are not happy. You can only take so many liberties before it backfires.
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Googly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:34 pm
The big problem for most u19's is getting a franchise slot immediately after the WC. The only guys that really walked into it were Shumba and Madhevere, others have struggled.
ZC need to be more pro-active in this regard. The standard needs to improve and there's a lot of dead wood in our system.
From speaking to people close to this crop I am surprised to hear that a few of them want to stay and have a crack including the likes of the Bennetts and Saul. Getting franchise places will be very tough though.
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:10 pm
Googly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:34 pm
The big problem for most u19's is getting a franchise slot immediately after the WC. The only guys that really walked into it were Shumba and Madhevere, others have struggled.
ZC need to be more pro-active in this regard. The standard needs to improve and there's a lot of dead wood in our system.
From speaking to people close to this crop I am surprised to hear that a few of them want to stay and have a crack including the likes of the Bennetts and Saul. Getting franchise places will be very tough though.
Most of these kids wanna have a shot at Zim?
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England is no longer an option, I doubt many, if any, have passports, once you've played u19 level it's trickier.
The real options are Uni for the lucky ones, a job somewhere or having a stab at pro cricket for a couple of years. When you're young you can afford a year or two on $300 a month without it wearing you down
The real options are Uni for the lucky ones, a job somewhere or having a stab at pro cricket for a couple of years. When you're young you can afford a year or two on $300 a month without it wearing you down
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Googly wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:33 am
England is no longer an option, I doubt many, if any, have passports, once you've played u19 level it's trickier.
The real options are Uni for the lucky ones, a job somewhere or having a stab at pro cricket for a couple of years. When you're young you can afford a year or two on $300 a month without it wearing you down
Bad news for the kids, a county cheque would go a long way to guaranteeing them financial security. But good news for Zim cricket, the chevrons will be thier road to global T20 jackpots. So, they will 1. Have to play for Zim 2. Excel whilst doing so, to catch the eye of the Indian/Pakistani/Saudi billionaires who own T20 franchises
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Tinah09 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:16 am
Googly wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:33 am
England is no longer an option, I doubt many, if any, have passports, once you've played u19 level it's trickier.
The real options are Uni for the lucky ones, a job somewhere or having a stab at pro cricket for a couple of years. When you're young you can afford a year or two on $300 a month without it wearing you down
Bad news for the kids, a county cheque would go a long way to guaranteeing them financial security. But good news for Zim cricket, the chevrons will be thier road to global T20 jackpots. So, they will 1. Have to play for Zim 2. Excel whilst doing so, to catch the eye of the Indian/Pakistani/Saudi billionaires who own T20 franchises
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This is mainly aimed at googly and secretzimbo. What are these boys seriously like? The batting looks strong on paper. The Bennet boys are getting a lot of hype, Matty Welch sounds like he's as good as his brother was at his age and then Bawa we all know about. Throw in Saul and Wollhutter and it sounds like there's a bit of depth there.
Are they as talented as the last batch? The 2018 squad was alarmingly underwhelming after so much hype, yet the 2020 boys looked strong.
Are they as talented as the last batch? The 2018 squad was alarmingly underwhelming after so much hype, yet the 2020 boys looked strong.
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I wouldnt be so sure no one has a British passport or Irish. Irish can be passed down and down if it was set up correctly.
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Tinah09 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:34 am
In the event that the Bennet brothers, Mitchell, Bawa and other u19 players do the extraordinary next month, are we really going to condemn them to Rajput “coaching” as they navigate the delicate devise between youth and pro-cricket?? If these kids are contemplating moving to the UK, doe’s Rajput care enough to convince them otherwise?
I think Dave Houghton might do the trick in convincing the youngsters to stay...I agree Rajput is they for the paycheck...
Rajput vs Raza is it India 🇮🇳 vs Pakistan 🇵🇰 issue
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Mueddie28 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:50 am
Tinah09 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:34 am
In the event that the Bennet brothers, Mitchell, Bawa and other u19 players do the extraordinary next month, are we really going to condemn them to Rajput “coaching” as they navigate the delicate devise between youth and pro-cricket?? If these kids are contemplating moving to the UK, doe’s Rajput care enough to convince them otherwise?
I think Dave Houghton might do the trick in convincing the youngsters to stay...I agree Rajput is they for the paycheck...
Rajput vs Raza is it India 🇮🇳 vs Pakistan 🇵🇰 issue
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Houghton should be aware of doing that good thing. Those who tried it has been fired from the job. Big Examples are Alistair Campbell, Taibu & Streak
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