ZC have just announced the appointment of Dave houghton as coaching manager. I don't know what that role means and if Rajput is still in but what it does mean is that Dave will be involved in the coaching set up and that In itself is a very good thing.
I suspect it is a level above the coach, where Rajput reports to him??
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Probably involved with coach development so I suspect he will be working with coaches at all levels. He'll probably have some sway along with Hammy over national coaches. Then I suppose he will be tasked with developing a coaching structure, standards and guidelines that can be sued amongst coaches throughout the system and also in terms of coaching the coaches. Interesting appointment.
He's also coaching Mountaineers himself of course.
Hopefully the first thing he does is tell Rajput to do one. Let's see.
How long until he falls out with Hammy?
He's also coaching Mountaineers himself of course.
Hopefully the first thing he does is tell Rajput to do one. Let's see.
How long until he falls out with Hammy?
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It should be a very good appointment but much of his job appear to be things that should be done by the 'Director of Cricket'. So it's probably inevitable there will be a fall out at some stage. I just hope it's several years down the line and he can achieve a good amount before then.
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Lets see how it goes. Pretty good news on the face of it. We expected something on these lines with his commentary stint in Scotland anyway.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:50 pm
It should be a very good appointment but much of his job appear to be things that should be done by the 'Director of Cricket'. So it's probably inevitable there will be a fall out at some stage. I just hope it's several years down the line and he can achieve a good amount before then.
Why do think like that? Hammy should have been involved in this appointment as well given his position, shouldn't be a fall out kind of scenario. I hope it goes all fine.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:06 pm
secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:50 pm
It should be a very good appointment but much of his job appear to be things that should be done by the 'Director of Cricket'. So it's probably inevitable there will be a fall out at some stage. I just hope it's several years down the line and he can achieve a good amount before then.
Why do think like that? Hammy should have been involved in this appointment as well given his position, shouldn't be a fall out kind of scenario. I hope it goes all fine.
'Hi Dave. Masakadza here. Do half my job for me. If you do well, I'll take the credit. If you do badly, you'll get fired and be the scapegoat and we'll blame you probably for being too white and terrible'.
Maybe I'm being too negative lol. 😂
It is a really good appointment and I'm pleased!
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:11 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:06 pm
secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:50 pm
It should be a very good appointment but much of his job appear to be things that should be done by the 'Director of Cricket'. So it's probably inevitable there will be a fall out at some stage. I just hope it's several years down the line and he can achieve a good amount before then.
Why do think like that? Hammy should have been involved in this appointment as well given his position, shouldn't be a fall out kind of scenario. I hope it goes all fine.
'Hi Dave. Masakadza here. Do half my job for me. If you do well, I'll take the credit. If you do badly, you'll get fired and be the scapegoat and we'll blame you probably for being too white and terrible'.
Maybe I'm being too negative lol. 😂
It is a really good appointment and I'm pleased!
LOL, I actually feel Hammy is not that bad. At least I liked him during his playing days. What surprised me though is that he couldn't do a thing to avoid Brendan's situation. A player he has played with for his entire career and these two were the face of Zimbabwe cricket for good 15 years.
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Unless it’s areal cheap appointment it does seem strangely close to Hamilton’s ‘director of cricket’ role.
When you’re flush with cash I wouldn’t think twice but ZC are in a budget.
Sometimes these types of hires are designed to cannibalise the incumbent. If Ham wasn’t involved he is in a bit of trouble
When you’re flush with cash I wouldn’t think twice but ZC are in a budget.
Sometimes these types of hires are designed to cannibalise the incumbent. If Ham wasn’t involved he is in a bit of trouble
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:27 pm
Probably involved with coach development so I suspect he will be working with coaches at all levels. He'll probably have some sway along with Hammy over national coaches. Then I suppose he will be tasked with developing a coaching structure, standards and guidelines that can be sued amongst coaches throughout the system and also in terms of coaching the coaches. Interesting appointment.
He's also coaching Mountaineers himself of course.
Hopefully the first thing he does is tell Rajput to do one. Let's see.
How long until he falls out with Hammy?
As soon as he tries to ramp up the "professionalism" in this set up he's going to encounter resistance, from players, coaches and other staff alike. If he wants to be in for the long haul he's just going to have to go with the flow and be a poster boy, he won't change a thing. 😂
Sounds like Masakadza has awarded himself a pay rise and delegated three quarters of his job description to someone who actually knows something and won't be in the firing line if nothing improves..smart!
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I don't think Hami was ready for the job they gave him and that's why this has happened. Hopefully he can focus on the administrative stuff for now and allow Houghton to do all the hard work. The coaching standard for me needs structure and hopefully this is what he is bringing to the table.
You could just sense something was up when Houghton was commentating in Scotland. He had done his homework on almost everybody. I also think this is the kind of guy we need as we transition. A lot is going to change over the next few years
You could just sense something was up when Houghton was commentating in Scotland. He had done his homework on almost everybody. I also think this is the kind of guy we need as we transition. A lot is going to change over the next few years
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So many plot twists in Zim cricket. Reckon this guy felt ZC will collapse in the next few years, and decided to take a chance at saving it from itself.
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Googly wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:30 pm
secretzimbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:27 pm
Probably involved with coach development so I suspect he will be working with coaches at all levels. He'll probably have some sway along with Hammy over national coaches. Then I suppose he will be tasked with developing a coaching structure, standards and guidelines that can be sued amongst coaches throughout the system and also in terms of coaching the coaches. Interesting appointment.
He's also coaching Mountaineers himself of course.
Hopefully the first thing he does is tell Rajput to do one. Let's see.
How long until he falls out with Hammy?
As soon as he tries to ramp up the "professionalism" in this set up he's going to encounter resistance, from players, coaches and other staff alike. If he wants to be in for the long haul he's just going to have to go with the flow and be a poster boy, he won't change a thing. 😂
Sounds like Masakadza has awarded himself a pay rise and delegated three quarters of his job description to someone who actually knows something and won't be in the firing line if nothing improves..smart!
That Asian chap, Dilip someone or other, does most of the work arranging domestic fixtures, venues, schedules, accommodation, transport etc as well. Jarvis & Chigs are 'scouts'. Houghton now in charge of coaching and standards.
Not entirely sure what Hammy actually does at this point lol. 😂
Either the board are trying to move him out, or Hammy himself is trying to cover his ass.
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Shouldn't be too negative though. I mean it really is nice to see Dave back and I'm sure he will have some impact. It's good.
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We've had far worse news than this.
For all the dissatisfaction with Hammy, he's pretty affable. I don't think he's against improvement. If Houghton doesn't have too many edges then they can make some progress.
For all the dissatisfaction with Hammy, he's pretty affable. I don't think he's against improvement. If Houghton doesn't have too many edges then they can make some progress.
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If Ham was part of the Appointment or was he excluded is the big Q for me and will tell the story.
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I hope this doesn't turn into a dantes inferno kind of thing which is what ultimately happened with taibu and streak.
Nevertheless it is a really good appointment
Nevertheless it is a really good appointment
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No idea what this role is but it sounds like Rajput and co are still in charge which is absolute horse s**t.
ZC always look like they are doing things but are never actually doing anything.
ZC always look like they are doing things but are never actually doing anything.
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