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....Of a player revolt. Potentially a couple of players confirming their international retirements on Monday after the game - likely Williams & RAza. I don't know where that leaves Brendan. Sense Monday could be the end of an era.

Might be bullshit (and I really pray its bullshit) but quite a few murmurs about it in Zimbabwe tonight.
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Hmm, rumour mill in overdrive now. Hearing all sorts of theories. Apparently some sort of crisis is on the cards on Monday night but hearing conflicting stories about what it may be.

First post might be incorrect but theres definitely something bubbling away.
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Sources??

And what kind of rumours and conflicting stories
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Worrying.

What could it be?
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Donald wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:06 pm

Sources??

And what kind of rumours and conflicting stories


Not seen anyone brave enough to post online...... but plenty of chatter on a whatsapp group. Separately, A mate who works with Rocks also has texted me to say Raza might be one of a 'group of several' who is calling it a day as part of a player revolt. But then someone else has posted in a group saying its just Willo reconfirming his retirement and thats all. Let's see.
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Would be embarrassing if will has retiree twice in a week
This doesn't sound good. In an ideal world this would hopefully lead to change in the system but this is ZC we're talking about.
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Is this all still to do with Rajput?

Sad times when things were starting to look promising.
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Mr Twig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:23 am

Is this all still to do with Rajput?

Sad times when things were starting to look promising.


yeah a pretty good xi with a settled lineup was coming together.
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What's the reason behind the sudden revolt in the player camp?
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Oh geez! dampened all the excitement I had for the final ODI tomorrow.Williams and Raza, judging by their fitness, both have another 3 years of cricket left in their tanks at the top. And 2023 World Cup would be a great send-off to BT and Slug, two great servants of Zimbabwe cricket . And these talented bunch of young lads need seniors' guidance and advice to grow their games for next two to three years. Zimbabwe cricket will be in shambles if this "multiple players' retirements" turns out to be true. Hopefully it is just a rumour.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:41 am

Who is the chairman of selectors?


Unless it’s changed recently I think it’s still David Mutendera with Gavin Ewing and Prosper Utseya the other members of the selection panel. I would imagine Hammi has a lot of say though. And once the boys are out on tour Rajput in theory picks the XI.
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We mentioned in one of the match threads - think it was the warmup match Vs Wolves - how miserable and downbeat Raza looked on the field.

I’m really sad about him. I’m sad about Williams too but Raza in particular is a favourite of mine.

Will BT stick around after this?
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Amazing that there were some clueless people on here who thought alienating our best players last week was actually a good idea haha.
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We all know the true colour of ZC and it is understandable if these seniors make the decision they are making according to the rumour but i think they should have done it way back in 2015 like Taylor did. They were relatively young and Williams and Raza both would have found a greener pasture oversea but Alas! with their age right now, it is a very bad timing to call it a day.
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lobsang wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:45 am

We all know the true colour of ZC and it is understandable if these seniors make the decision they are making according to the rumour but i think they should have done it way back in 2015 like Taylor did. They were relatively young and Williams and Raza both would have found a greener pasture oversea but Alas! with their age right now, it is a very bad timing to call it a day.


Genuinely this doenst make sense to me. These guys have been through way more harder stuff and kept strong. This is so sudden. A solid xi was just coming togehter with a clear achievable goal in mind. A few youngsters are popping up and now a revolt? Against what? Rajput or other components of the admin?
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I'll wait to hear more concrete details of it, but as it stands, I find it frivolous that they are talking about retirement due to Rajput! The guy is not even Zimbabwean and can be (and already has been?) dispensed with. It is not like it was Mangongo or someone who is also a Zimbabwean and has a lot of the board support. Even Mangongo himself was removed, so Rajput is a nobody in ZC power circles. It sounds quite strange that they are making him the target, For me, it appears like the target is someone else in ZC and they are just using the Rajput situation to send a message.

If Mutendera is indeed the chairman of selectors, then him, his contemporaries, ZC and the previous ZCU admin all have a lot of history and there is indeed sense in speculating what might be going on there. I could understand the 2004 saga, suspension related saga, nonpayment related saga, but this bout of rebellion sounds a bit strange, for the lack of better words...
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Raza is actually a poor 20 20 player at least for the national team.

His form dictates that he should not be there.

Taylor on the other hand is a good players in multi formats
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:23 am


TapsC2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:41 am

Who is the chairman of selectors?


Unless it’s changed recently I think it’s still David Mutendera with Gavin Ewing and Prosper Utseya the other members of the selection panel. I would imagine Hammi has a lot of say though. And once the boys are out on tour Rajput in theory picks the XI.


How would you rate Mutendera's performance overall in terms of selection?

For me the negatives- Chibhabha, failing to manage the senior players and K-long constantly getting picked

The positives- Bringing Jongwe back even though he wasn't killing it on the domestic scene. Ngarava. The 4 u19 players
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:37 am

I'll wait to hear more concrete details of it, but as it stands, I find it frivolous that they are talking about retirement due to Rajput! The guy is not even Zimbabwean and can be (and already has been?) dispensed with. It is not like it was Mangongo or someone who is also a Zimbabwean and has a lot of the board support. Even Mangongo himself was removed, so Rajput is a nobody in ZC power circles. It sounds quite strange that they are making him the target, For me, it appears like the target is someone else in ZC and they are just using the Rajput situation to send a message.

If Mutendera is indeed the chairman of selectors, then him, his contemporaries, ZC and the previous ZCU admin all have a lot of history and there is indeed sense in speculating what might be going on there. I could understand the 2004 saga, suspension related saga, nonpayment related saga, but this bout of rebellion sounds a bit strange, for the lack of better words...


I’d assume the movement to phase out the older players with the new players is a directive from the board, so Rajput would have their support

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