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4th Unofficial Odi | Zimbabwe A V/s South Africa A | Harare

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High chance of Proteas A side taking odi the series 3-1. Proteas found some good back ups for their seniors. Ryan Rickelton will now create some uncomfort for unperformed

Heinrich Klaasen. A space can be created in proteas middle order for Rickelton to support Miller with power hitting in shorter formats. Hendricks & Hamza will be in contention for making comebacks.

For Zimbabwe, good to see Chatara back with economical spell with 3 wickets so far in the series he would like to add few more and is likely to make comeback in upcomming series against Bangladesh else it has been lovely to watch Zim youths Myers, Marumani & Shumba. Would like to see Ryan Burl in 4th odi, since his finger injury has not been declared official, neither any replacement has been announced for him its clear now he has been punished for asking sponsorship in social media.
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Another performance like that last game and Zim A could legitimately make the series 2-2, which is something very commendable against South Africa A. Chamu came good last time out which was actually nice to see. I wouldn't be as opposed to having him in the ODI lineup if he could do this every now and then. Shumba, Myers and Marumani all look like great prospects, here's hoping ZC don't ruin their careers. As the person above me said, I'd give Ryan Burl if his finger really isn't broken, a go this game, punishing him for the twitter thing is absolute nonsense imo. In any case win or lose, this series really was a good initiative from ZC, the most important thing for guys like Marumani, Myers, Shumba is playing time and giving them this series as a chance to play cricket against a fairly strong team is brilliant for their development. Can't wait.
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tgk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:29 am

Another performance like that last game and Zim A could legitimately make the series 2-2, which is something very commendable against South Africa A. Chamu came good last time out which was actually nice to see. I wouldn't be as opposed to having him in the ODI lineup if he could do this every now and then. Shumba, Myers and Marumani all look like great prospects, here's hoping ZC don't ruin their careers. As the person above me said, I'd give Ryan Burl if his finger really isn't broken, a go this game, punishing him for the twitter thing is absolute nonsense imo. In any case win or lose, this series really was a good initiative from ZC, the most important thing for guys like Marumani, Myers, Shumba is playing time and giving them this series as a chance to play cricket against a fairly strong team is brilliant for their development. Can't wait.


Before declaring it as absurd. Provide the official proof of Burl getting injured and which player is his replacement. Unofficial series at international level isn't a joke. I don't see someone who is so much brave to be vocal in social media will hide his injury from fans
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:42 am

Would like to see Ryan Burl in 4th odi, since his finger injury has not been declared official, neither any replacement has been announced for him its clear now he has been punished for asking sponsorship in social media.


Punishment? No he is injured that's why he is not in the squad and also he is training with other players in the guidance of walter karim. Hope fully he will available in 4 day match
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Marshmallow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:12 am


Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:42 am

Would like to see Ryan Burl in 4th odi, since his finger injury has not been declared official, neither any replacement has been announced for him its clear now he has been punished for asking sponsorship in social media.


Punishment? No he is injured that's why he is not in the squad and also he is training with other players in the guidance of walter karim. Hope fully he will available in 4 day match


If Burl was injured, he would'nt have been included in odi side which was declared on May 19. Burl tweeted about sponsorship on May 23, still there was no mention of his injury in media and the Unofficial Odi Series started on May 29th. If he got injured on 29th May or after, then he wont be able to participate in Unofficial test series to begin on 7th June as a minor finger broken injury requires minimum 2 weeks to recover 4 weeks in case of severe case
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Chamu - The Captain is back !!!!
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Myers was listed but in the team sheet it said he was out injured and Mutumbami comes in for him which is very unfortunate.
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Very unfortunate. Would have liked myers to be first change bowler for zim today
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Team Sheet
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Chivanga has not looked good imo. Chatara is still needed in the team.

Bowling attack ODI

Burl (more like an all rounder also)

Muzarabani

Nyauchi/Ngarava

Chatara
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So it seems they have brought in madhevere today ..wish Myers was there ..would have loved to see marumani Myers madhevere and shumba playing together ..they are the next fab 4 after Taylor ervine williams raza
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In terms of accurate economical bowling Wellington is the best in the country
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I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava
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zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:20 am

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be against Ireland, Scots or Netherlands but subcontinent side like Afghanistan can smash those spinners.
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zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:20 am

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


I agree with this team, cant have an average spinner in place of a top pacer. those 7 batsmen are enough for a good score.
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:30 am


zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:20 am

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be Ireland, Scots, Afghans or Netherlands


Why do you follow Zimbabwe if you think we are that useless? I dont know if we need all this negative energy. A player cant even be injured without it being a conspiracy here these days
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:35 am


Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:30 am


zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:20 am

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be Ireland, Scots, Afghans or Netherlands


Why do you follow Zimbabwe if you think we are that useless? I dont know if we need all this negative energy. A player cant even be injured without it being a conspiracy here these days


Results are enough no need to develop negetive energy. Zimbabwe struggled against the associates & new test sides past few years, that even costed them CWC 2019
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:30 am

[quote=zimlover post_id=164458 time=<a href="tel:1622794831">1622794831</a> user_id=924]

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be Ireland, Scots, Afghans or Netherlands

Pay particular attention to the word Challenge. I don’t if you have noticed that over the past few years we have no been able to put together a strong seam combination,the cabinet was almost empty before Jarvis returned.

Zimbabwe has never been a top cricket side, all we ever do is put on a fight even putting up a fight was starting to disappear from our reputation.

We might beat Bangladesh every now and then, that’s just as good as we will ever be.

[/quote]
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zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:39 am


Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:30 am

[quote=zimlover post_id=164458 time=<a href="tel:1622794831">1622794831</a> user_id=924]

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be Ireland, Scots, Afghans or Netherlands

Pay particular attention to the word Challenge. I don’t if you have noticed that over the past few years we have no been able to put together a strong seam combination,the cabinet was almost empty before Jarvis returned.

Zimbabwe has never been a top cricket side, all we ever do is put on a fight even putting up a fight was starting to disappear from our reputation.

We might beat Bangladesh every now and then, that’s just as good as we will ever be.


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Zimbabwe is still a good side. If proper brains in approach of the game & few changes in coaching is made, Zim could still avoid qualifiers and play 2023 WC directly, recent T20 win against Pakistan proved that.

What Zim needs to know first is which condition suits them spin friendly, slow tracks or seam & swing pitch with assistance to pacers.Nayuchi & Muzarabani can even upset strong sides if they get assistance from that Harare or Bulawayo track. Havent seen such a good seam position at the point of release from a Zim pacer most recently, after Jarvis & Vitori

In teams like Zimbabwe, coach & captain should be the member of selection panel and play a role in selection along with 2 selectors.Williams, Rajput & 2 selector should be given free hand to make selection and discuss all about performances
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:42 am


zimlover wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:39 am


Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:30 am

[quote=zimlover post_id=164458 time=<a href="tel:1622794831">1622794831</a> user_id=924]

I wouldn’t mind seeing 4 seamers in the squad, the last time we had a good combination of seamers was when we had Chatara/Jarvis /Vitori/ Shingi Masakadza.

We can start preparing seam friendly conditions.

With Muzarabani/Nyauchi/ Ngarava/Chatara combination will be a handful in seaming conditions.

With Madhevere , Raza and williams offering Spin this would be good strategy.

We could easily challenge some sides with this combination

Marumani

Madhevere

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Chakabva wk

Muzarabani

Chatara

Nyauchi

Ngarava


May be Ireland, Scots, Afghans or Netherlands

Pay particular attention to the word Challenge. I don’t if you have noticed that over the past few years we have no been able to put together a strong seam combination,the cabinet was almost empty before Jarvis returned.

Zimbabwe has never been a top cricket side, all we ever do is put on a fight even putting up a fight was starting to disappear from our reputation.

We might beat Bangladesh every now and then, that’s just as good as we will ever be.



Zimbabwe is still a good side. If proper brains in approach of the game & few changes in coaching is made, Zim could still avoid qualifiers and play 2023 WC directly, recent T20 win against Pakistan proved that.

What Zim needs to know first is which condition suits them spin friendly, slow tracks or seam & swing pitch with assistance to pacers.Nayuchi & Muzarabani can even upset strong sides if they get assistance from that Harare or Bulawayo track. Havent seen such a good seam position at the point of release from a Zim pacer most recently, after Jarvis & Vitori

In teams like Zimbabwe, coach & captain should be the member of selection panel and play a role in selection along with 2 selectors.Williams, Rajput & 2 selector should be given free hand to make selection and discuss all about performances

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I am agreeing with you about the conditions,over the past few years we have prepared pitches to hide our low to non existent stock of fast bowlers /seamers.

We had a few part time spinners come through, Williams, Raza, Madhevere,Burl,Wellington, most of them have been bits and piece bowlers.

I don’t know if much will change about the coaching and selection panel but I think we have a ok Selection panel.

The selections we have seen have been based on what’s available.I don’t see anyone missing out who should be in the team who has performed.

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