ricky wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:14 am
best would be to tour Ireland or invite them in Zimbabwe for one test and five Odis.
We don't play Ireland enough .....
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:40 pm
Afghanistan I don’t think will last too long. Once Rashid goes I think they won get much better. Too much dramas in the country and I wouldn’t be surprised if some mullah in charge bans the game over there. I’ve read some have tried.
I think the real new kids on the block will be Nepal. Sleeping giant there with a large cricketing Base.
Personally I wish the Netherlands would kick on. They would be great tours. Doubt it’ll happen.
Afghanistan do have a lot of talent coming up the ranks. The only thing they are lacking is talent in the seam bowling department. But as India (historically), Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh have shown, you can still be a good Test side in Asian conditions with one or two semi-decent quick bowlers.
I believe the Afghans have considerable talent in the batting department that is still waiting in the wings. In their current setup, only Nabi and Rahmat will make for good Test batters. Perhaps Stanikzai as well - although he is a terrible ODI batsman.
As for Nepal, their series wins in UAE were quite impressive. Nepal has long been a strong unit at the U-19 level, but where a terrible team at the senior level. They have finally gotten ODI status, and I hope they push on in the coming years. Possibly the next Test side by 2040 or so (???)
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The Robot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:30 pm
Most lucky teams have been Ireland and Bangladesh as they had very least achievement before getting test status.
Ireland had beaten mutliple Test sides at world cups and dominated the Associate level for over a decade before getting Test status. They beat Pakistan, Bangladesh, England, West Indies in successive World Cups. They got only a handful of chances and they took it.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:56 pm
The Robot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:30 pm
Most lucky teams have been Ireland and Bangladesh as they had very least achievement before getting test status.
Ireland had beaten mutliple Test sides at world cups and dominated the Associate level for over a decade before getting Test status. They beat Pakistan, Bangladesh, England, West Indies in successive World Cups. They got only a handful of chances and they took it.
Ireland have'nt been consistance their trumphs have been once in a blue moon. They struggled against Bangladesh & Zimbabwe not even successfull in giving competition, only great thing about Irish Cricket is their Board, which has been effective in arranging fixtures and in 2019 Irish cricket will have busy schedule, hope rain doesnt damage the fixtures as their season seems starts in a Rainy season.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:56 pm
The Robot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:30 pm
Most lucky teams have been Ireland and Bangladesh as they had very least achievement before getting test status.
Ireland had beaten mutliple Test sides at world cups and dominated the Associate level for over a decade before getting Test status. They beat Pakistan, Bangladesh, England, West Indies in successive World Cups. They got only a handful of chances and they took it.
Ireland have'nt been consistance in their trumphs have been once in a blue moon. They struggled against Bangladesh & Zimbabwe not even successfull in giving competition, only great thing about Irish Cricket is their Board, which has been effective in arranging fixtures and in 2019 Irish cricket will have busy schedule, hope rain doesnt damage the fixtures as their season seems starts in a Rainy season.
Ireland showed some character in their innaugral test against Pakistan and it seems they are taking this format for raising consistent performance in the games.
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The Robot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:10 am
Ireland have'nt been consistance in their trumphs have been once in a blue moon. They struggled against Bangladesh & Zimbabwe not even successfull in giving competition, only great thing about Irish Cricket is their Board, which has been effective in arranging fixtures and in 2019 Irish cricket will have busy schedule, hope rain doesnt damage the fixtures as their season seems starts in a Rainy season.
Ireland showed some character in their innaugral test against Pakistan and it seems they are taking this format for raising consistent performance in the games.
What do you mean once in a blue moon? They have played in only 3 world cups and have already knocked off 3 major sides, 5 if you include Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Every world cup they play in, they are beating 1-2 established sides. 2015 they were closet to qualifying for the quarterfinals. Their team might suck now, but the last 10-12 years Ireland has been a very tough side. They deserved Tests status far more than Afghanistan (who deserved it themselves) or Bangladesh.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:59 am
The Robot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:10 am
Ireland have'nt been consistance in their trumphs have been once in a blue moon. They struggled against Bangladesh & Zimbabwe not even successfull in giving competition, only great thing about Irish Cricket is their Board, which has been effective in arranging fixtures and in 2019 Irish cricket will have busy schedule, hope rain doesnt damage the fixtures as their season seems starts in a Rainy season.
Ireland showed some character in their innaugral test against Pakistan and it seems they are taking this format for raising consistent performance in the games.
What do you mean once in a blue moon? They have played in only 3 world cups and have already knocked off 3 major sides, 5 if you include Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Every world cup they play in, they are beating 1-2 established sides. 2015 they were closet to qualifying for the quarterfinals. Their team might suck now, but the last 10-12 years Ireland has been a very tough side. They deserved Tests status far more than Afghanistan (who deserved it themselves) or Bangladesh.
Kenya also had a great World Cup in 2003, earlier they beat strongest West Indies Side in 1996 World Cup, demand to give them test status was high but it got diminished because of lack of performances in billateral tournaments. Afghans played one 50 over world cup and registered a win similar to Bangladesh who beat strong Pakistan Side, but failed to achieve success in billateral tournaments at that phase. BCCI was efffective in ICC demanding test status for Bangladesh as a matter of political help which Kenya didnt get from South Africa or Zimbabwe.
Afghans billateral series performance has been accepted massively, they won against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Windies troubled Sri Lanka, always have been instrumental in giving tough fights to test playing nations whenever they featured which lacked in Irish team, except World Cup wins they haven't been good in billateral assignments against test playing nations.
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The problem with the Irish is they have 4 batsman over 35 and another 33/34.
If children of men were a cricket team, Ireland would be it.
In 3 years it’ll be Zimbabwe.
If children of men were a cricket team, Ireland would be it.
In 3 years it’ll be Zimbabwe.
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Ireland’s recent A Tour of Sri Lanka shows there’s definitely some talent coming through, with Niall O’Brien & Ed Joyce retiring expect to see some fresh faces into the side which should boost them.
Also the Irish will always benefit from English ( And South African) players with Irish heritage who decide its better to take the ancestors route to international cricket to ensure a better chance of getting a cap.
Looking at the the three sides Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe it’s hard to argue that Zimbabwe has the bleakest outlook 😥
Also the Irish will always benefit from English ( And South African) players with Irish heritage who decide its better to take the ancestors route to international cricket to ensure a better chance of getting a cap.
Looking at the the three sides Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe it’s hard to argue that Zimbabwe has the bleakest outlook 😥
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Lorcan Tucker, Harry Tector, Neil Rock, J Mccollum are the latest finds for Ireland in Sri Lanka Tour
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Ireland are great beneficiaries of the ancestry passport which benefits those with a grandparent born there OR ethnically Irish that have proactively registered their children’s birth BEFORE they were born to maintain an unbroken chain.
With This generation though I don’t think we will see many Africans of Irish heritage as the grandparents were probably born in Africa too. Doubt there were many to begin with. Italy has a similar system.
Designed to get back to the goodfellas and guys in the departed that fled during WW2 and various wars since.
Because they are in the EU they have EU full working rights so they can’t be excluded form British county. Brilliant for them, until Brexit at least, by my understanding
With This generation though I don’t think we will see many Africans of Irish heritage as the grandparents were probably born in Africa too. Doubt there were many to begin with. Italy has a similar system.
Designed to get back to the goodfellas and guys in the departed that fled during WW2 and various wars since.
Because they are in the EU they have EU full working rights so they can’t be excluded form British county. Brilliant for them, until Brexit at least, by my understanding
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Does anyone "in the know", know what the potential tours lined up for the next year or so are beyond the upcoming SL series?
(The rate we're going it'll probably be a tour of Burkina Faso, with a few of our mercenaries opting out of it for the Libyan Premier League)
(The rate we're going it'll probably be a tour of Burkina Faso, with a few of our mercenaries opting out of it for the Libyan Premier League)
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From the recently updated FTP:
July/August 2017 - Tour of Sri Lanka (1 Test, 5 ODIs)
October 2017 - Host West Indies (2 Tests)
February 2018 - Tour of Bangladesh (ODI Tri-series)
March 2018 - CWC qualifier
June/July 2018 - Host Australia (1 Test, 3 ODIs)
August 2018 - Host Pakistan (2 Tests,3 ODIs, 2 T20Is)
October 2018 - Tour of South Africa (1 Test, 3 ODIs, 1 T20I)
January 2019 - Tour of Bangladesh (3 Tests, 3 ODIs)
March 2019 - Tour of India (1 Test, 3 ODIs)
June/July 2019 - CWC
July 2019 - **TBC** Tour of England (1 Test)
August 2019 - Host South Africa (2 Tests, 3 ODIs, 1 T20I)
October 2019 - Tour of Sri Lanka (2 Tests, 3 ODIs, 2 T20I)
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July/August 2017 - Tour of Sri Lanka (1 Test, 5 ODIs)
October 2017 - Host West Indies (2 Tests)
February 2018 - Tour of Bangladesh (ODI Tri-series)
March 2018 - CWC qualifier
June/July 2018 - Host Australia (1 Test, 3 ODIs)
August 2018 - Host Pakistan (2 Tests,3 ODIs, 2 T20Is)
October 2018 - Tour of South Africa (1 Test, 3 ODIs, 1 T20I)
January 2019 - Tour of Bangladesh (3 Tests, 3 ODIs)
March 2019 - Tour of India (1 Test, 3 ODIs)
June/July 2019 - CWC
July 2019 - **TBC** Tour of England (1 Test)
August 2019 - Host South Africa (2 Tests, 3 ODIs, 1 T20I)
October 2019 - Tour of Sri Lanka (2 Tests, 3 ODIs, 2 T20I)
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auszim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:25 am
Theres a big push to get a touring team in December. ZC dont care who but are trying all countries that havent already got commitments. Preferably a team that can pay their own way and then get reimbursed by the ICC
Bangladesh are available and look like the obvious choice. IIRC they owe us a Test series.
The other option is South Africa, but they are banking on India touring them in December rather than January, which depends on the India v Pakistan series not going ahead in December. Pakistan would then be available.
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Even Scotland or Nambia or a South African A squad would be nice...don't know if ZC would tour Pakistan again
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ODI: Scotland 1-1 Zimbabwe
ListA: Netherlands ?-? Zimbabwe (probably 2-1 or 3-0 considering Netherlands are much stronger than Scotland)
ODI: Sri Lanka 5-0 Zimbabwe
TEST: Sri Lanka 1-0 Zimbabwe
WI: Assuming West Indies do come through - following the Afghanistan embarassment, and some IPL careers under threat - Zim will be on the receiving end of a stronger WI squad.
So the discussion or considerations should center around possible player contract downgrades, retirements, departures; non-salary payment(not due to funds unavailabiltiy); coach firing and hiring.
If that doesn't happen then I expect boardroom battles with the old order coming back (PC, OB, AC, GM, SM) considering the ICC World Cup Qualifiers will be less than a year away and drastic measures may be necessary.
Either way, if incoming tours are the primary factor post SL-WI, I'll be a little bit surprised. At any rate, since Zimbabwe have already done AFG, IRE, SCO, NED, NAM and CAN, then expect any one or more of PNG, HK, Nepal, Kenya, UAE and Oman for a single-team or multi-team visit. No Burkina Faso just yet though. :mrgreen:
ListA: Netherlands ?-? Zimbabwe (probably 2-1 or 3-0 considering Netherlands are much stronger than Scotland)
ODI: Sri Lanka 5-0 Zimbabwe
TEST: Sri Lanka 1-0 Zimbabwe
WI: Assuming West Indies do come through - following the Afghanistan embarassment, and some IPL careers under threat - Zim will be on the receiving end of a stronger WI squad.
So the discussion or considerations should center around possible player contract downgrades, retirements, departures; non-salary payment(not due to funds unavailabiltiy); coach firing and hiring.
If that doesn't happen then I expect boardroom battles with the old order coming back (PC, OB, AC, GM, SM) considering the ICC World Cup Qualifiers will be less than a year away and drastic measures may be necessary.
Either way, if incoming tours are the primary factor post SL-WI, I'll be a little bit surprised. At any rate, since Zimbabwe have already done AFG, IRE, SCO, NED, NAM and CAN, then expect any one or more of PNG, HK, Nepal, Kenya, UAE and Oman for a single-team or multi-team visit. No Burkina Faso just yet though. :mrgreen:
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Surely we can't sit and wait till October to play again???
Get someone over to Zimbabwe or we can go there, sitting around for 3 months ain't going to help us .....
Considering the issues going on between Cricket Australia and their players should we step in and replace them against South Africa A? Even the Bangladesh tour looks unlikely we could fill in there also ......
Get someone over to Zimbabwe or we can go there, sitting around for 3 months ain't going to help us .....
Considering the issues going on between Cricket Australia and their players should we step in and replace them against South Africa A? Even the Bangladesh tour looks unlikely we could fill in there also ......
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Going to BD might work because Australia are in a right mess.
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auszim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:25 am
Theres a big push to get a touring team in December. ZC dont care who but are trying all countries that havent already got commitments. Preferably a team that can pay their own way and then get reimbursed by the ICC
Scotland are likely to tour i think.
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