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ricky wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:14 am

best would be to tour Ireland or invite them in Zimbabwe for one test and five Odis.


We don't play Ireland enough .....
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So much for Ireland chasing their dream of Test cricket :evil:
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I think the most difficult thing about supporting Zimbabwe is that we hardly seem to play. The guys get some form in the test arena and then don't play another test for 12 months.
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eugene wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:54 am

I think the most difficult thing about supporting Zimbabwe is that we hardly seem to play. The guys get some form in the test arena and then don't play another test for 12 months.


ZC really need to start making more friends around the ICC table to have other countries host them more regularly if hosting games is too expensive. The thing that makes it difficult is that hosting Zimbabwe doesn't really make you any money so the other countries aren't keen to host them.

I guess the new ODI League will help Zimbabwe get a steady stream of fixtures, but after playing their last game in early November it's simply unacceptable that they won't be playing again until July !!!!
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:00 am


eugene wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:54 am

I think the most difficult thing about supporting Zimbabwe is that we hardly seem to play. The guys get some form in the test arena and then don't play another test for 12 months.


ZC really need to start making more friends around the ICC table to have other countries host them more regularly if hosting games is too expensive. The thing that makes it difficult is that hosting Zimbabwe doesn't really make you any money so the other countries aren't keen to host them.

I guess the new ODI League will help Zimbabwe get a steady stream of fixtures, but after playing their last game in early November it's simply unacceptable that they won't be playing again until July !!!!


Afghanistan has basically replaced us. They are the cool new guys everyone loves while we are old and stale hanging around like a bad smell.
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Mr Twig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:46 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:00 am


eugene wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:54 am

I think the most difficult thing about supporting Zimbabwe is that we hardly seem to play. The guys get some form in the test arena and then don't play another test for 12 months.


ZC really need to start making more friends around the ICC table to have other countries host them more regularly if hosting games is too expensive. The thing that makes it difficult is that hosting Zimbabwe doesn't really make you any money so the other countries aren't keen to host them.

I guess the new ODI League will help Zimbabwe get a steady stream of fixtures, but after playing their last game in early November it's simply unacceptable that they won't be playing again until July !!!!


Afghanistan has basically replaced us. They are the cool new guys everyone loves while we are old and stale hanging around like a bad smell.



Mr Twig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:46 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:00 am


eugene wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:54 am

I think the most difficult thing about supporting Zimbabwe is that we hardly seem to play. The guys get some form in the test arena and then don't play another test for 12 months.


ZC really need to start making more friends around the ICC table to have other countries host them more regularly if hosting games is too expensive. The thing that makes it difficult is that hosting Zimbabwe doesn't really make you any money so the other countries aren't keen to host them.

I guess the new ODI League will help Zimbabwe get a steady stream of fixtures, but after playing their last game in early November it's simply unacceptable that they won't be playing again until July !!!!


Afghanistan has basically replaced us. They are the cool new guys everyone loves while we are old and stale hanging around like a bad smell.


If Afghanistan play against other teams in the same way as they play against Zimbabwe, with a serious lack of respect for the spirit of the game and for their opponents, especially that nasty little creep Shahzad, they will soon be the stench in everybody's nostrils.
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jward wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:40 pm

If Afghanistan play against other teams in the same way as they play against Zimbabwe, with a serious lack of respect for the spirit of the game and for their opponents, especially that nasty little creep Shahzad, they will soon be the stench in everybody's nostrils.


If they keep winning games and producing exciting cricketers, that won't happen. There are plenty of annoying/borderline criminal cricketers from Kohli to Stokes to Warner/Smith. But their performances mean they are big ticket draws.

The Afghans I suspect will struggle in Test cricket - particularly with the bat. But in ODIs, their bowling stocks (mainly their spinners) will make them a competitive unit. It appears as though Nepal may be attemping to replicate a similar model of success.
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Being the romantic I am, there is a faint hope the ICC will enforce the Test Championship. From what I understand, each test has relevance. So, even in a dead rubber, the remaining test(s) account for points which all contribute to the final tally of the championship. And relegation is a possibility for the last placed in the championship.

Zimbabwe, Ireland & Afghanistan have a certain number tests to play in order to see who challenges the last placed for the possibility of promotion.

The ICC has not set out a difficult FTP to follow. I would've thought this was to put an end to the cancelling of the test(s) & playing the shorter format only.

Also, India will be made to play day/night tests.

But, as I said, I'm a romantic.

Or a dreamer.

Or deluded.

Or all of the above.
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Afghanistan I don’t think will last too long. Once Rashid goes I think they won get much better. Too much dramas in the country and I wouldn’t be surprised if some mullah in charge bans the game over there. I’ve read some have tried.

I think the real new kids on the block will be Nepal. Sleeping giant there with a large cricketing Base.

Personally I wish the Netherlands would kick on. They would be great tours. Doubt it’ll happen.
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I agree. I don't know why the ICC were so hasty in giving them Test status when Ireland had to slave away for so many years and Kenya never even got a look in - not to mention the fact that the country is a war zone where you can't actually stage a game of cricket.

I think Ireland will always be there and abouts for the simple reason that it's a country with money. (If for some reason Canada or Singapore played at the highest level I think you'd find the same thing.) Money will be pumped into the game by vested interests and the team will always be somewhat competitive even if they never really climb the rankings.


Once Rashid goes I think they won get much better.


What odds are you offering that he ends up retiring at age "25"?
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brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:53 pm

I agree. I don't know why the ICC were so hasty in giving them Test status when Ireland had to slave away for so many years and Kenya never even got a look in - not to mention the fact that the country is a war zone where you can't actually stage a game of cricket.

I think Ireland will always be there and abouts for the simple reason that it's a country with money. (If for some reason Canada or Singapore played at the highest level I think you'd find the same thing.) Money will be pumped into the game by vested interests and the team will always be somewhat competitive even if they never really climb the rankings.


Once Rashid goes I think they won get much better.


What odds are you offering that he ends up retiring at age "25"?


Not able to host game doesnt matter, even Pakistan is playing in UAE for long time because of security issues, its the performance that matters. Afghanistan was most discussed nation among the cricket experts when they were associates as they tore apart a test playing nation like Zimbabwe in worst way whenever they played, they even had neck to neck battle with Bangladesh, defeated Windies, nearly would have defeated strong Sri Lankan Side in 2015 World Cup. Their develooments have been massive and ICC was bound to give them Test Status.

Most lucky teams have been Ireland and Bangladesh as they had very least achievement before getting test status.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am

Ireland’s recent A Tour of Sri Lanka shows there’s definitely some talent coming through, with Niall O’Brien & Ed Joyce retiring expect to see some fresh faces into the side which should boost them.

Also the Irish will always benefit from English ( And South African) players with Irish heritage who decide its better to take the ancestors route to international cricket to ensure a better chance of getting a cap.

Looking at the the three sides Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe it’s hard to argue that Zimbabwe has the bleakest outlook 😥


As far as I saw in Cricinfo they didnt win a game in Sri Lanka. I wouldnt get their hopes up just yet. For me Sri Lanka are probably the closest test nation to the bottom 3 recently. The most corrupt too according to the ICC :D

Speaking of A tours werent we supposed to get some this year?
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TapsC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:03 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am

Ireland’s recent A Tour of Sri Lanka shows there’s definitely some talent coming through, with Niall O’Brien & Ed Joyce retiring expect to see some fresh faces into the side which should boost them.

Also the Irish will always benefit from English ( And South African) players with Irish heritage who decide its better to take the ancestors route to international cricket to ensure a better chance of getting a cap.

Looking at the the three sides Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe it’s hard to argue that Zimbabwe has the bleakest outlook 😥


As far as I saw in Cricinfo they didnt win a game in Sri Lanka. I wouldnt get their hopes up just yet. For me Sri Lanka are probably the closest test nation to the bottom 3 recently. The most corrupt too according to the ICC :D

Speaking of A tours werent we supposed to get some this year?


A tours to Zimbabwe I believe as hosts we have to pay for them. And other countries don't seem to be falling over each other to invite us over there, so probably we have struck out again.
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https://twitter.com/CricketZimbo/status ... 3784704000

Afghanistan players have asked @ACBofficials not to schedule any matches against Zimbabwe..... WTF!!!

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Maybe Zims next ODI series... I have heard from a reliable source that Afghanistan players has requested that their board not schedule anymore tours against Zimbabwe .. Very concerning that they have used us to get better and are now done with us 🤷🏼‍♂️😡🥴 #worldcricketisprogressing
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TapsC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:03 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am

Ireland’s recent A Tour of Sri Lanka shows there’s definitely some talent coming through, with Niall O’Brien & Ed Joyce retiring expect to see some fresh faces into the side which should boost them.

Also the Irish will always benefit from English ( And South African) players with Irish heritage who decide its better to take the ancestors route to international cricket to ensure a better chance of getting a cap.

Looking at the the three sides Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe it’s hard to argue that Zimbabwe has the bleakest outlook 😥


As far as I saw in Cricinfo they didnt win a game in Sri Lanka. I wouldnt get their hopes up just yet. For me Sri Lanka are probably the closest test nation to the bottom 3 recently. The most corrupt too according to the ICC :D

Speaking of A tours werent we supposed to get some this year?


It’s not all about the team result, individually they had some young players stand up and do well, as a result there are plenty of new faces in their three squads to tour Oman & India
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Looks like the UAE and Afghanistan are touring in April. Four and five ODIs respectively.
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:24 pm

Looks like the UAE and Afghanistan are touring in April. Four and five ODIs respectively.


Where’d you hear this ?
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jaybro wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:33 am


zimfan1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:24 pm

Looks like the UAE and Afghanistan are touring in April. Four and five ODIs respectively.


Where’d you hear this ?


https://www.sundaymail.co.zw/zc-plug-in-gaps

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Zimbabwe Cricket has filled a huge fixture gap and it’s confirmed the Chevrons will host two nations that have broken their hearts in recent times, UAE and Afghanistan.

UAE are expected in the country first for a four-match ODI series before Afghanistan follow for five ODIs.

ZC acting general manager Givemore Makoni confirmed the tours.

“Yes, we are looking forward to hosting both the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan in the coming months,” he said.

“Both tours should happen in April, although the actual dates are yet to be finalized. “All I can say, at the moment, is that both tours have been confirmed with the Chevrons expected host the UAE for a four match ODI series.

“The clash between Zimbabwe and Afghanistan will be a five-match series.

“Our number one job is cricket, yes we are under austerity, but cricket should be played hence the frantic efforts to fill in the fixture gap,” Makoni said. Zimbabwe’s last ODI was away to Bangladesh in October 2018 while their last home series came in July 2018 against Pakistan. The forthcoming tours by UAE and Afghanistan bridge what could have been a nine-month period without any international cricket. Zimbabwe is expected to tour Ireland for a three ODI and T20 series in July as per the requirements of the Future tours program. “It has been tough, to be honest, but we are working flat out to ensure our cricket gets back to where it’s supposed to be,”went on Makoni.

“One of these efforts is to make sure we have plenty of international cricket,” he said. The Acting ZC general manager reiterated that the organization is committed to keeping the game afloat in the country.

“Our message to our staff has been ‘tough times don’t last, but tough people do’; and as this is our second year under austerity, we are making good progress.

‘’We are also hosting the women’s World T20 Africa Regional Qualifier in May; and we will also work, flat out, to make sure that we do so successfully.

“We have just completed our Logan Cup which we played around with the dates to ensure most of our national team players were around to improve the quality of the competition,” Makoni said.

UAE’s visit to Zimbabwe will be their first, since they broke the Chevron’s hearts with a three-run win last March 2018.

This was during the ICC World Qualifier match during Zimbabwe needed to win and book a place at this year’s World Cup in England and Wales.

Afghanistan won 3-2 during their last ODI series tour of Zimbabwe in 2017.
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Well this is good news from where I'm sitting and it's actually really good timing

The Pro50 comp will be starting up again soon so the selectors will finally get a chance to pick from players for the same format

A chance for the boys to get revenge on the Emiraties for the CWCQ loss and it will be a good step up from the Pro50 leading up to the very important series v Afghanistan.

If the spin trio of Nabi, Rashid & Mujeeb are in fact unavailable it gives Zimbabwe a great chance to finally beat these guys in a series.

9 ODI's against beatable opposition is just what the doctor ordered.
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Wow! This is wonderful news, looking forward to see Zimbabwe play some cricket!!

Still a little disappointed that there are no tests against Afghanistan or Ireland.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:53 pm

A chance for the boys to get revenge on the Emiraties for the CWCQ loss and it will be a good step up from the Pro50 leading up to the very important series v Afghanistan.


Nepal have beaten them in 2 formats, back to back, at their own den. We must be annihilating them in all matches ideally, a la 2008-09 Kenya series. Let us see how it goes.

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