Is he suppose to move permanently to play for Ireland cricket? IF yes then it will be bigger loss to us(Cricket Zimbabwe)
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PJ Moor has joined the @MunsterReds(Ireland cricket) squad for the upcoming Inter-Provincial Series
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:32 am
PJ Moor is now giving a tight slap to those who thought he is average and is below Regis Chakabva. He should have been regular in shorter format but became victim of politics, deserved backing from selectors in his hard times, which they give to their favourite players.At present Zimbabwe doesn't have any aggresor at the lower order that costed them against Pakistan after stage was set by Wes and Marumani.
Does Zim lost another talent to other nation ? Moor getting the chance to lead the side will also raise this question. A foreign player leading a domestic side is mostly seen in English County not in other nations.
Irish cricket is in rebuilding phase after retirement of few of their seniors, and they didn't have a quality keeper batsman after Niall O'Brien, addition of Moor will settle the issue of wicket keeper batsman position.
Right. PJ Moor is a match winner. He is way better than Chakava & Mutumbami.
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cricket_22001 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:03 am
Irish cricket is in rebuilding phase after retirement of few of their seniors, and they didn't have a quality keeper batsman after Niall O'Brien, addition of Moor will settle the issue of wicket keeper batsman position.
In about 2024 after Moor's phase of eligibility.
Proteas allrounder in domestic cricket Ruhan Pretorius moved to Ireland in 2019 and played for Ireland A team against Bangladesh in 2020. Eligibility criteria might have changed
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Just a last ditch attempt from my end - for people trying to compare Chakabva and Mutumbami with Moor:
We have seen enough of all 3 as "keepers" and Moor was as bad as Chakabva and Mutumbami with gloves, and has dropped many a chances when he was the designated keeper for a brief while. In fact, he was definitely worse as a "keeper" than Chakabva. Please observe - I'm not saying keeper-batsman, but just the keeper role. I don't see a point in comparing him with Mutumbami because anyway Mutumbami himself is not a regular in the XI and is slipping down very fast from even being a backup for Chakabva.
If there is an argument for Moor, it should purely be on the basis of Moor the batter. Chakabva is not holding a spot designated for Moor. Moor did not even regularly keep in the domestic scene to get considered as a keeper. This is like saying Kasuza should be the keeper because his Cricinfo bio indicates that he has kept wickets at some point and that he would do better than Chakabva anyway.
With all the injuries that happened in the last couple of tours, Moor would have probably made it to the national team as a batsman anyway if he had stayed around. He chose not to wait for his turn and decided to try his luck elsewhere, which is perfectly fine from his point of view. We seem to forget the form he was in when he got dropped in the first place from the team - he was struggling to get runs nationally and domestically too. The only thing one can complain about is the lack of communication from ZC, and that is a common issue and not specifically targeted at Moor anyway.
So all this talk of Moor has been monumentally wronged or he should replace Chakabva is hilarious!
We have seen enough of all 3 as "keepers" and Moor was as bad as Chakabva and Mutumbami with gloves, and has dropped many a chances when he was the designated keeper for a brief while. In fact, he was definitely worse as a "keeper" than Chakabva. Please observe - I'm not saying keeper-batsman, but just the keeper role. I don't see a point in comparing him with Mutumbami because anyway Mutumbami himself is not a regular in the XI and is slipping down very fast from even being a backup for Chakabva.
If there is an argument for Moor, it should purely be on the basis of Moor the batter. Chakabva is not holding a spot designated for Moor. Moor did not even regularly keep in the domestic scene to get considered as a keeper. This is like saying Kasuza should be the keeper because his Cricinfo bio indicates that he has kept wickets at some point and that he would do better than Chakabva anyway.
With all the injuries that happened in the last couple of tours, Moor would have probably made it to the national team as a batsman anyway if he had stayed around. He chose not to wait for his turn and decided to try his luck elsewhere, which is perfectly fine from his point of view. We seem to forget the form he was in when he got dropped in the first place from the team - he was struggling to get runs nationally and domestically too. The only thing one can complain about is the lack of communication from ZC, and that is a common issue and not specifically targeted at Moor anyway.
So all this talk of Moor has been monumentally wronged or he should replace Chakabva is hilarious!
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Proteas allrounder in domestic cricket Ruhan Pretorius moved to Ireland in 2019 and played for Ireland A team against Bangladesh in 2020. Eligibility criteria might have change
When I referred to 2024, it was assuming he didn't have any Irish family connections. If you have a grandparent of Irish descent, that will speed up the process, perhaps as in Pretorious' case.
But Moor last represented Zimbabwe in October 2019, so it may come down to when he makes a committment to Ireland & maybe resides in the country.
When I referred to 2024, it was assuming he didn't have any Irish family connections. If you have a grandparent of Irish descent, that will speed up the process, perhaps as in Pretorious' case.
But Moor last represented Zimbabwe in October 2019, so it may come down to when he makes a committment to Ireland & maybe resides in the country.
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cricket_22001 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:53 am
Zimdoggy, I beg to differ in your comment that Craig Ervine failed when he played in Ireland.
He played for Northern Knights for 2 seasons &, in their Championship matches (what would become first class), ended up with 371 runs in 7 innings(one not out) from 5 matches at an average over 60. This included one century & 3 fifties.
He didn't play in the white ball competitions for the Knights.
Did he?
Must admit I never checked his stats but I could have sworn the talk here at the time was he was struggling.
It was very vivid to me because a lot of people were making comments like ‘just shows the grass isn’t always greener’ etc.
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Ireland Cricket is now going forward then Zimbabwe. Some differences are there now. Very soon Irish team will be hard to catch for Zimbabwe
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:01 am
No place for PJ Moor in Ireland's WC Squad.
Yes I was expecting him but didn't perform as per the standards in domestic so not a big shocker either
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The truth is he has been struggling for consistency for years. You can't change leagues and think suddenly things will be better. There is clearly an issue with his technique.
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I really did rate PJ. He was one of the most promising youth players. He didn't get the Wes and shumba treatment but by age 15 everybody could see he was going to play international cricket. I don't remember anyone else getting that treatment. Maybe Jongwe as a teen. Its just that at the highest level 1 obvious flaw in your technique and you are done. It happened again today.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:39 pm
Ireland should be trying to play Zim and Afghanistan for the next 10 test matches. They aren't ready for such occasions. Looked like a practice session out there today
I was cringing. They look like a county 2nd XI.
In fact I reckon Surrey's seam attack would be more penetrative.
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:35 pm
TapsC2 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:39 pm
Ireland should be trying to play Zim and Afghanistan for the next 10 test matches. They aren't ready for such occasions. Looked like a practice session out there today
I was cringing. They look like a county 2nd XI.
In fact I reckon Surrey's seam attack would be more penetrative.
There is a massive gulf, find it bizarre that England agree to play them.
That Irish bowling attack wouldn't get in the Rhinos team (other than Mark adair).
Hand and Hume look absolutely awful, campher is a batting allrounder and mcbrine should not be in for his bowling.
Tim murtagh would still walk in that side and he has gone 40 now.
I imagine it would be different if the bowling attack was Adair, murtagh, little and Singh (has he retired?)
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CalZim wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:25 pm
There is a massive gulf, find it bizarre that England agree to play them.
Well it’s great that they are playing them. There’s no reason England can’t do this EVERY year as a warm-up to their main test summer.
The more teams play at the highest level, the better they get. Ireland (and Zim!) need way more fixtures of course.
Ireland haven’t bothered to play any domestic red ball cricket for the past four years which is surely massively affecting them and their ability to be competitive this week.
Actually despite getting smacked around I quite like the look of this Fion Hand guy. Not going well for him (and this England team really are phenomenal) but I reckon he’s got something. Graham Hume by comparison looks pretty terrible.
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England are incredible btw. There’s huge potential for this current team playing like this to eventually go down as one of the greatest Test sides of all time.
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ShareWhy does Ireland despise us anyway? We would be playing multiple Tests each year. Read some Cricinfo comment saying some of their players got their FC debuts in the tour match! Which they fielded players on both sides.
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I know Duckett is on 160* but I hate watching him bat. He's bats like a crab. Can't seem to drive a cricket ball which I predict is going to be his downfall
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:16 pm
I’m in England and have a ticket for Saturday. Genuinely worried this might be over before then 😂 Either that or England bat for two days and accumulate about 1,000 runs or something.
The f***ing English have declared for seemingly no reason whatsoever. In real danger of seeing little to no cricket tomorrow now 😂
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