Just thought of putting up this random thing. Who according to you are those unfortunate Zimbabweans to never get an international cap, but deserved it? Let us stick to post test induction, i.e., 1992.
You can mention those who got ODI caps but not Test caps for those who deserved test caps too, and vice versa as well. But the best would be to highlight those who never got an international look in.
I'm sure we have had this discussion before in different contexts, but this thread would help. And specially those who saw local matches would have good inputs I guess...
The thoughts came about because of the current surge in talent in India. Batsmen like Amol Muzumdar and Devendra Bundela not playing for India ever was sad, but they arrived on scene when the batting lineup was jam packed with legends. Really good spinners like K Gowtham and Shreyas Gopal (a very good batsman too) might never get a look in due to the incumbents and the bench strength.
Have there been such heart breaking stories in Zim Cricket?
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I couldn't agree more. I have always said it takes three balls to determine the quality of a cricketer. First impressions are everything, and in the case of Ryan Butterworth, his was evidently very average. Odd though, as he could clearly score runs domestically.
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Butterworth could score runs but he really didn't score that many. He burned brightly for a season or so.
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If Butterworth is best player not to get a cap it proves one thing
Zimbabwe has tried everyone possible
Zimbabwe has tried everyone possible
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jaybro wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:40 am
If Butterworth is best player not to get a cap it proves one thing
Zimbabwe has tried everyone possible
True. Pretty much.
Anyway, the list of names floated so far. Clearly, we have tried everyone possible if this is how the list looks.
Ian Engelbrecht
Wisdom Siziba
Kevin Kasuza
Donald Campbell
Trevor Penney
Admire Manyumwa
Brighton Mugochi
Ryan Butterworth
Malcolm Lake
Andy Durham
Glen Querl
Dylon Higgins
Kuda Samunderu
Andre Soma
Leon Soma
Neeten Chouhan
But Lake, Higgins, Samunderu probably should not be in this list as they never seriously made themselves available / were around long enough to demand selection.
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tawac wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:06 am
Correct me if Im wrong but Querl used to chuck it didnt he.
Correct he was called for a suspect action playing for Hampshire I think?
Mark Vermeulan and an English import actually refused to face him during a Logan Cup match I believe
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Based on LC records only, I’ll add a few more names. Most on the list seem to have got an ODI cap but not test representation. Again, stated without prejudice to talent or politics.
Greg Strydom- over 2000 runs at 44.
Richard Sims 1100 runs at 40 plus useful spin.
Taurai Muzarabani over 150 wickets.
Gary Martin- averaged mid 30s with the bat in LC & UCB. Useful medium pace as well. Seemed to be thereabouts in the early nineties but couldn’t quite crack it. Missed the 93/94 tour to Pakistan to Bruk-Jackson & Briant.
I just want to mention the 99/00 season where The administration almost got the season right. The season started with home & away tests with SA. Then a tri series with England & SA. A full tour by SL. The LC expanded to 5 teams including Manicaland, Midlands & CFX Academy as well as Mashonaland & Matebeleland. The LC was played over consecutive weekends in March & April. But it coincided with the tour to WI, so the top players didn’t play. Then the A team went to Sri Lanka. It helped develop Ray Price, Vermeulen & Wishart. All batsmen struggled but the latter two notched a century each.
A player of note on this tour was Daniel Peacock. Andy Whittall & Paul Strang were at the end of their careers so Zim has Brian Murphy, a leggie, Price, a leftie, then Peacock, an offie. But before the rebellion a few years later, he disappeared. Why? This is where John Ward was invaluable in filling in the gaps of reporting.
Earlier mentioned was Leon Soma. He had useful stats but didn’t even get an ‘A’ game. But disappeared after 05/06 while still in his early twenties. Andre Soma Is a stats marvel. 25 LC innings for 549 runs at 22 but one innings of 204! A stats quiz question if ever there was one!
Neetan Chouhan is another stats wonder. Nothing much in LC but went to SA & got one innings of 248 for Northerns (Northern Transvaal) & promptly disappeared while in his early twenties.
Hope this was useful.
Greg Strydom- over 2000 runs at 44.
Richard Sims 1100 runs at 40 plus useful spin.
Taurai Muzarabani over 150 wickets.
Gary Martin- averaged mid 30s with the bat in LC & UCB. Useful medium pace as well. Seemed to be thereabouts in the early nineties but couldn’t quite crack it. Missed the 93/94 tour to Pakistan to Bruk-Jackson & Briant.
I just want to mention the 99/00 season where The administration almost got the season right. The season started with home & away tests with SA. Then a tri series with England & SA. A full tour by SL. The LC expanded to 5 teams including Manicaland, Midlands & CFX Academy as well as Mashonaland & Matebeleland. The LC was played over consecutive weekends in March & April. But it coincided with the tour to WI, so the top players didn’t play. Then the A team went to Sri Lanka. It helped develop Ray Price, Vermeulen & Wishart. All batsmen struggled but the latter two notched a century each.
A player of note on this tour was Daniel Peacock. Andy Whittall & Paul Strang were at the end of their careers so Zim has Brian Murphy, a leggie, Price, a leftie, then Peacock, an offie. But before the rebellion a few years later, he disappeared. Why? This is where John Ward was invaluable in filling in the gaps of reporting.
Earlier mentioned was Leon Soma. He had useful stats but didn’t even get an ‘A’ game. But disappeared after 05/06 while still in his early twenties. Andre Soma Is a stats marvel. 25 LC innings for 549 runs at 22 but one innings of 204! A stats quiz question if ever there was one!
Neetan Chouhan is another stats wonder. Nothing much in LC but went to SA & got one innings of 248 for Northerns (Northern Transvaal) & promptly disappeared while in his early twenties.
Hope this was useful.
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Another guy to throw in the mix is Michael McKillop, he only played the one season for Matabeleland in 04/05 and seemed to leave with the rest of the rebels although I dont think he officially part of the 'rebellion'.
First class average of 31 and captained the Matabeleland side.
Niel Ferreria would have been No.1 player but for his one and only test v NZ
http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe/co ... 55631.html
First class average of 31 and captained the Matabeleland side.
Niel Ferreria would have been No.1 player but for his one and only test v NZ
http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe/co ... 55631.html
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Nor Campbell MacMillan surprisingly
Decent bowling average and a first class ton, one must also remember he played in a much higher standard Logan Cup then what we've seen in the last 10 or so years
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/ ... 55627.html
Decent bowling average and a first class ton, one must also remember he played in a much higher standard Logan Cup then what we've seen in the last 10 or so years
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/ ... 55627.html
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