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What is the equation now?

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That is the game we NEEDED to win (a relief we finally had a win that didn't come down to the last over too).

How many results do we need to go our way now?

West Indies def. Scotland

Ireland def. Scotland

Zimbabwe def. United Arab Emirates

Is there anything else?
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We win #1 one game we are mathematically assured.

Not to sound rude at all, because every scenario in my head tells me it’s that simple
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Is there any sequence that can cause us to miss out on qualification even if we beat one of the UAE/Windies? Surely 7 points is enough?
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Just to add to my last point, I base this on my fact WI v Scotland is still to come, there’s no rain. So there can be only one winner
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If we beat Afghanistan we cant miss out because Scotland and the West Indies still have to play each other. I hope I'm right but from what I looked at that's what's in our favour.
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eugene wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm

Is there any sequence that can cause us to miss out on qualification even if we beat one of the UAE/Windies? Surely 7 points is enough?


Scotland win 2x against Irish and UAE with a better NRR.

UAE and Ireland

On the other hand. WI Romp home against Scotland and us
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TapsC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:31 pm

If we beat Afghanistan we cant miss out because Scotland and the West Indies still have to play each other. I hope I'm right but from what I looked at that's what's in our favour.


Wrong on two levels
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eugene wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm

Is there any sequence that can cause us to miss out on qualification even if we beat one of the UAE/Windies? Surely 7 points is enough?


The best Zimbabwe and Scotland can do is 9.

The best West Indies can do is 8.

The best Ireland and Afghanistan can do are 6.

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Scotland and West Indies have a game against each other. So really it can either only be (at best):

- Scotland 9 / West Indies 6; or

- Scotland 7 / West Indies 8.

In that second scenario, if Scotland have a big win over Ireland and their NRR is higher than Zim then they'd qualify with West Indies.

As I understand it.
If Scot beat WI, then the max WI can get is 6 by beating is.

I think it ZD is correct, win one of the last two we are in.
Sorry rereading brtadmin's he might be right! f***ing confusing.
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Ireland's win over Scotland mean's we pretty much just have to beat UAE to go through, if we beat them we're on 7 points

Ireland on 4 points with 1 game to go MAX 6 points

Scotland on 5 points with 1 game to go MAX 7 points

Windies on 4 points with 2 games to go MAX 8 points

Afghanistan on 2 points with 2 games to go MAX 6 points

UAE on 0 points with 2 games to go MAX 4 points

So they key thing to remember is that the Windies and Scotland play each other so only one of those sides can reach their MAX points so if we beat UAE only 1 of the Windies or Scotland can equal or surpass us. If we beat the Windies we are through also and this result would blow the tournament right open and keep the Irish and Afghans in the fight.

AT this stage it looks like Scotland and Windies playing off for the last spot
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We can technically still make it if we lose both games.

If this happens, we are in if we lose both games.

UAE V Afg =UAE

Ire V afg= AFG

Scotland v Windies= Windies

This means the table will be

Windies=8

Zim= 5 (NRR better)

Scotland=5

Ireland=4

AFG=4

UAE=4

Its a stretch to think the UAE beat the afghans, but alaso remember UAE have knocked us over in this scenario too so its possible if this situation materialises.
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jimbo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:03 pm

Think we will knock over the windies. Cremer and chisoro the main architects


Yeah for some reason I'm really confident about the Windies game but very nervous about the UAE game. The Emirates are a dangerous and un-predictable side their batting is very good and if they win the toss bat first - get the right pitch - get a decent total then their spinners will come into the game.

Their bowling isn't that crash hot but if they can get 220-250 on a slowing pitch their part time Cabbies ( as the Dogg would say ) will be a handful.
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There's rain predicted for Harare today.

I think a washout would secure us a spot... The only ways it wouldn't would have been if Scotland won yesterday. (or if Afghanistan really thump some teams and make up the NRR difference)
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If we want a washout, we would probably want it against the Windies. Surely we can back ourselves against UAE
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brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:05 am

There's rain predicted for Harare today.

I think a washout would secure us a spot... The only ways it wouldn't would have been if Scotland won yesterday. (or if Afghanistan really thump some teams and make up the NRR difference)


You forget that Irland can also get to 6 points if they beat Afg, and their NRR is still goodish.
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Can someone work out the equation now for:

- A washout vs UAE

- A loss vs UAE

???
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brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:16 pm

Can someone work out the equation now for:

- A washout vs UAE

- A loss vs UAE

???


As far as I can see, and please point out flaws in my thinking:

A washout against UAE puts us on 6 points. This would put us in contention for the second qualifying spot on NRR: Depending on results we could be joined on 6 points by Windies (loss to Scotl.), Ireland or Afg.

A loss against the UAE leaves us with two outs: In either case Scotland need to lose against the Windies and join us on 5 points (at the same time we need to preserve our NRR advantage); to make sure that neither Ireland or Afg reach 6 points we either need a washout/tie in their match (which could put both sides level on 5 points with us, and again we need to preserve our NRR advantage) or Afg to lose to UAE and then beat Ireland (this puts Afg, Ireland and UAE on 4 points).
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:( my head hurts

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