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THE RETURN OF GRAEME CREMER

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I was just thinking the other day, What is possibility of Cremer returning to Represent Zimbabwe? Firstly the reasons for him retiring early were because we lost the world cup qualifier and he wanted to support his young family by moving to Dubai, Also considering that his wife is a Pilot and it seemed like a god idea to get a decent pay cheque, without the stress of dealing with Zimbabwe cricket.

Now that the Covid 19 pandemic has put the whole Air line industry in to financial pressure, and the possibility of third wave of a super mutated Covid 19, I do not see international travel coming back in another year or so . Is there possibility that they may return to Zimbabwe sooner than promised? A lot Pilots and air crew staff have been let go here in Australia and i can only imagine what would be happening in a place like Dubai.

Secondly now that Zimbabwe is hosting the qualifiers again, will this bring about another opportunity for him to return and possible, qualify and play with the rest of his beloved team mates?

Thirdly one can only imagine what life in Dubai is like under lock down, compared to Zimbabwe where they enjoyed having family and close friends around.

Lastly we have so much cricket scheduled in the next coming year,more cricket than ever before could we see him coming back into the Fold.

I think there is a chance.
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She is still flying from what I've seen on Instagram, and I doubt air Zim is doing much flying. Secondly, cremer is a coach for Rajasthan royals academy so I don't think there is a flying chance they will be back in Zim.
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It’s not even about ‘will he or won’t he’ but rather will he be any good if he returned?

He will be three years out of tune by the time it happens. I can’t see it coming back before retirement age.

Stopping this game is a killer. Name one player who has taken a few years off and come back better
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I reckon you're clutching at straws but I guess its cool to speculate.

With his new role in the academy i am sute he is doing just fine. In his recent podcast with Dean br plessis he said he was happy with life in Dubai. So for now I'll go with no.

There is always tomorrow though!
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:47 pm

It’s not even about ‘will he or won’t he’ but rather will he be any good if he returned?

He will be three years out of tune by the time it happens. I can’t see it coming back before retirement age.

Stopping this game is a killer. Name one player who has taken a few years off and come back better


He did quit before to Persue Professional Golf and came back,I think he is contemplating as we speak. The role at the academy is not eternal after that is finished it will be time for the world cup
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I have no doubt that he will at least attempt a comeback.
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Get him in the team!
My All-time Zimbabwe XI
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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If Zimbabwe are in fact going to play 8 Tests next year, this could actually convince Cremer to return, Jarvis to reverse his decision or even tempt Snater back to Zimbabwe.

Cremer & Jarvis especially might see it as a chance to have one last season where they can play 8 Tests, something they could only have dreamed of during their careers

I’m saying this I think it’s unlikely
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jaybro wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:21 am

If Zimbabwe are in fact going to play 8 Tests next year, this could actually convince Cremer to return, Jarvis to reverse his decision or even tempt Snater back to Zimbabwe.

Cremer & Jarvis especially might see it as a chance to have one last season where they can play 8 Tests, something they could only have dreamed of during their careers

I’m saying this I think it’s unlikely


I’m not so sure if we are to believe the players.

Jarvis is retiring because of the travel obligations with a new family and body wear and tear. He might be happy with low frequency cricket, as would Cremer perhaps as he is playing house husband.

Cremwr has made some rumblings in interviews about living to come back and that’s usually a precursor to doing it. Hopefully he does, even if just to get to the next WC.
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Also mods should rename this to a less click bait title
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Obviously I can’t speak for the players, but I would assume every cricketer would be very aware and even obsessed with their stats. When you considering cricket is a game all about numbers and your average generally dictates the course of your career.

So with 8 Tests to play I’d think someone like Cremer or Jarvis would look at this as an opportunity to reach a wicket tally they probably thought was never possible for them.

Cremer could easily end up with 100 Test wickets if he plays these 8 Tests
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Would be fantastic if he came back. He would walk back into the team
Legend
This makes sense absolutely everywhere besides Zim. Something about the game here where stats and national pride don’t really matter. Maybe it’s because of the way they get treated but most of them are after some cash and that’s it. That’s why these retirements are a common thing. Give Zim rugby 2.5 million and they would be competing within a year.
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Speaking of records if we do get 8 matches, BT has to be looking to catch Andy Flower’s 12 test centuries. I know he is on 6 but we scoring another 6 in 16 innings against Afghanistan, Ireland, Pakistan and Bangladesh is not impossible . He should get at least 3 or 4 then look to catch up the following year
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It doesn't matter if Zimbabwe loses to other teams but I want to win the next two Tests against Afghanistan. We need to dominate the Tests against them.That's my wish
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I don't think bringing Cremer back benefits us. Yes he might produce the goods and do a job, but he will then be retiring pretty soon after.

We need a proper pathway and identified plan in terms of our team. We don't have a pathway or plan. Our plan is often just put whoever is the flavour of the month and if they perform, they stay, if not, we try someone else. We really need to develop a proper plan and structure.

In the last six years we have used Ndlovu, Mavuta, Chisoro, Nyumbu, Roche. This does not take in to account the part timers that we have used too.

So there is no real plan or structure and that is one of our big downfalls and failures of the administration.
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:53 am

I don't think bringing Cremer back benefits us. Yes he might produce the goods and do a job, but he will then be retiring pretty soon after.

We need a proper pathway and identified plan in terms of our team. We don't have a pathway or plan. Our plan is often just put whoever is the flavour of the month and if they perform, they stay, if not, we try someone else. We really need to develop a proper plan and structure.

In the last six years we have used Ndlovu, Mavuta, Chisoro, Nyumbu, Roche. This does not take in to account the part timers that we have used too.

So there is no real plan or structure and that is one of our big downfalls and failures of the administration.


True. 100% true.

Theo thee school of thought is we could use him for a couple of years IF he is still up to it and then the chinaman can take his position, although I’m always weary if a Chinaman can make it internationally. But if he does, that buys some time to put these pathways in.
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I think for ODI and t20 cricket yes plan ahead look to the future. But in Test cricket you never think too far ahead, especially for Zimbabwe where any Test match they play is so special and rare.

Winning the next Test match is always the most important thing, so if all of your best players are 35, then pick an entire side of 35 year olds.

There’s nothing to build for in Test cricket, the most important game always the next game
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jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:28 am

I think for ODI and t20 cricket yes plan ahead look to the future. But in Test cricket you never think too far ahead, especially for Zimbabwe where any Test match they play is so special and rare.

Winning the next Test match is always the most important thing, so if all of your best players are 35, then pick an entire side of 35 year olds.

There’s nothing to build for in Test cricket, the most important game always the next game


I agree but this is why we need a solid domestic setup with overseas players making is competitive. We are playing in the British winter so technically we have options for coubty players if the deal is good enough.

Without the first class system humming we can't avoid giving youngsters a run in the international side because they will never have a chance at quality opposition.

Lets see how this season goes. I am keen to see soe new names come through.

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