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If Snater is tossing up between staying with Holland or going back to ZIm you could understand why. He's about 4th or 5th in the seam pecking order in Holland, and the way things are going more South Africans will be switching to Holland in the coming years. Compared that to Zimbabwe who are always struggling for seamers at the best of times, and with KJ retiring & big question marks over Chatara getting back to his best, Snater would realistically be the 2nd best seamer in Zimbabwe.

The other big draw-card is obviously Test cricket, although Zimbabwe don't play many Tests you'd think he'd get about 20 Tests by the time he retires, where as if he stayed with the Dutch he'd be banking on the ICC giving them full status which might never happen.
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Ervine just smoked snater for 16 in one over 😂😂
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Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.
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Who is bright matsiwe?
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Richmond getting stumpings. 😯

Rocks are firing.
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Tanaka Chivanga gets 4 wickets.

One for the future maybe?
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Big win for Rocks! Long time since that's happened.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am

Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.


This was my point regarding Nkosana Mpofu the other day. He's definitely more reliable than Jha and Chari doesn't churn the rounds out like a test quality opener should!

Are those guys you mentioned just protecting themselves from the new ball though?
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ljriley90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:04 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am

Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.


This was my point regarding Nkosana Mpofu the other day. He's definitely more reliable than Jha and Chari doesn't churn the rounds out like a test quality opener should!

Are those guys you mentioned just protecting themselves from the new ball though?


Shumba and moor have a patheay to the national tean opening if they are good.

Shumba is an opener, and a young batsman that has big expoectations, so why waste time with a deadbeat?

opening the batting can also mean max value for runs whilst the ball is rpck hard. flies off the bat. need to do away with the 'protecting against new ba;;' mindset as other countries are.

Besides, the best players are best placed to protect.

For me the openers should be the best players of pace.

ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:13 pm


ljriley90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:04 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am

Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.


This was my point regarding Nkosana Mpofu the other day. He's definitely more reliable than Jha and Chari doesn't churn the rounds out like a test quality opener should!

Are those guys you mentioned just protecting themselves from the new ball though?


Shumba and moor have a patheay to the national tean opening if they are good.

Shumba is an opener, and a young batsman that has big expoectations, so why waste time with a deadbeat?

opening the batting can also mean max value for runs whilst the ball is rpck hard. flies off the bat. need to do away with the 'protecting against new ba;;' mindset as other countries are.

Besides, the best players are best placed to protect.

For me the openers should be the best players of pace.


Is Shumba an opener? I've never seen him down as opener before? For me there's legs for Moor to do that role, but I reckon he's going to keep and bat at 7 more realistically in the long run.

Prince

Kausza

Ervine

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Wes

Moor wk

Mumba

Blessing

Nyauchi

Maybe the Don comes somewhere

By that reckoning Kamunhukamwe
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Donald wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:41 am

Ervine just smoked snater for 16 in one over 😂😂


Yes, he seemed to decide the young upstart needed taking down a peg or two! Ervine at his best, like for much of today, looks a really world-class player, making his strokes with such ease and timing; what looks like a casual push beats the field and goes for four. Why on earth did he throw away his wicket at 97 with a stupid reverse sweep?
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am

Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.


The usual Zimbabwe problem of finding top batsmen able and willing to open the batting!
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From what I’ve seen of Shumba he’s not a test match or first class opener, maybe in limited overs stuff but not longer form cricket
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jward wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:50 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am

Jha seems wasted at the top when you have Shumba, Moor and Jongwe showing some hunger below him.


The usual Zimbabwe problem of finding top batsmen able and willing to open the batting!


Is there any chance that Ben Curran can be convinced? He could be one of the solutions
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jward wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:49 pm


Donald wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:41 am

Ervine just smoked snater for 16 in one over 😂😂


Yes, he seemed to decide the young upstart needed taking down a peg or two! Ervine at his best, like for much of today, looks a really world-class player, making his strokes with such ease and timing; what looks like a casual push beats the field and goes for four. Why on earth did he throw away his wicket at 97 with a stupid reverse sweep?


Thanks as always for the update John, and it is disheartening to know Ervine went for a reverse sweep and perished. He is not as compulsive a reverse sweeper from what we have seen in the international arena at least - not as compulsive as Taylor, Williams, Taibu and Hammy - but well...
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jaybro wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:45 am

From what I’ve seen of Shumba he’s not a test match or first class opener, maybe in limited overs stuff but not longer form cricket


Congrats jaybro, on getting onto to the top of the table, crossing my tally of total number of posts made :)

I was at the top for far too long, thanks to the photo quiz thread :D
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:35 am


jaybro wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:45 am

From what I’ve seen of Shumba he’s not a test match or first class opener, maybe in limited overs stuff but not longer form cricket


Congrats jaybro, on getting onto to the top of the table, crossing my tally of total number of posts made :)

I was at the top for far too long, thanks to the photo quiz thread :D


I must surely be in the top 10 myself.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:27 am

I must surely be in the top 10 myself.


At number 9. More than half those posts must have been used up to argue with jaybro 😂

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Good to see some quality in the first class games. Our teams sadly have 3 quality levels which really just shows the limited talent available. At least each team has a few club cricketers on them which for first class really isnt good. The next games will be better with BT and Welch back. We need all our overseas and national team players to step up and show their worth. This is also a massive opportunity for young fringe players to stake a claim again actually quality national team opposition.

The Rocks look faces though. Ill try and get to a few games to see how good they look.

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