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Updates :

Logan Cup four day domestic competition for the season 2020-21 gets underway on 3 Dec.

Southern Rocks have bounced back as the fifth first-class team after 6 years as replacement for

the Alistair Campbell’s High Performance Centre team Rangers that failed to have a new academy intake this year due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.herald ... -back/amp/

Coaches :

Stuart Matsikenyeri - Eagles

Walter Chawaguta - Rhinos

Douglas Hondo - Tuskers

To be announced - Mountaineers

Shepherd Makunura - Southern Rocks
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Good to see Logan Cup starting but I'm getting frustrated at the lack of cricket during COVID, and the empty stadiums.

Also, it's difficult to see nations outside of top 8 get enough cricket until situation returns to normalcy which is even more frustrating, because mostly it will be same big teams playing each other. Already a lot of test series in WTC have been cancelled... Same can happen to ODI Super league if games don't start soon.
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Stoneman Returns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:47 am

Pakistan opening batsman Sami Aslam, aged 24 has decided to leave Pakistan Cricket and play international cricket for some other nation after being ditched from 35 men squad touring NZ.

Will be interesting to see which team he selects for playing international cricket, has been top performer in domestic cricket.Past few years few Pakistani domestic players were seen playing domestic cricket in Zimbabwe, Raza being the top who selected Zimbabwe for international cricket.

http://m.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/cont ... 47079.html


I hope we don't find a situation where pakis and Bangladeshis have found a loophole to pimp themselves out to the cricketing world permanently. The loopholes are tough as I imagine but they have ruined the European cricket scene by just taking over all small development efforts to get locals involved. Annoys me.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm


Stoneman Returns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:47 am

Pakistan opening batsman Sami Aslam, aged 24 has decided to leave Pakistan Cricket and play international cricket for some other nation after being ditched from 35 men squad touring NZ.

Will be interesting to see which team he selects for playing international cricket, has been top performer in domestic cricket.Past few years few Pakistani domestic players were seen playing domestic cricket in Zimbabwe, Raza being the top who selected Zimbabwe for international cricket.

http://m.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/cont ... 47079.html


I hope we don't find a situation where pakis and Bangladeshis have found a loophole to pimp themselves out to the cricketing world permanently. The loopholes are tough as I imagine but they have ruined the European cricket scene by just taking over all small development efforts to get locals involved. Annoys me.


Its mostly a Pakistani (and Indian) thing. Teams like Denmark or Belgium end up being 90% Asian. I never understood why Bangladeshis didn't do it also. I suspect Bangladeshi expats aren't good enough even to crack a team like Belgium or Slovenia.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm


Stoneman Returns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:47 am

Pakistan opening batsman Sami Aslam, aged 24 has decided to leave Pakistan Cricket and play international cricket for some other nation after being ditched from 35 men squad touring NZ.

Will be interesting to see which team he selects for playing international cricket, has been top performer in domestic cricket.Past few years few Pakistani domestic players were seen playing domestic cricket in Zimbabwe, Raza being the top who selected Zimbabwe for international cricket.

http://m.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/cont ... 47079.html


I hope we don't find a situation where pakis and Bangladeshis have found a loophole to pimp themselves out to the cricketing world permanently. The loopholes are tough as I imagine but they have ruined the European cricket scene by just taking over all small development efforts to get locals involved. Annoys me.


Just like Zimbos & Proteas pimping in UK. On previous occassion international players use to look for loopholes now even Under 19 kids have crowded their clubs & 2nd XI.

Ireland & Australia are being added to it as their new destination.
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https://www.sundaynews.co.zw/pakistan-i ... e-in-2021/

Looks like we have 4 test matches coming up at the beginning of next year and some A team cricket. While I don’t like Hami appointing Chamu, having somebody who understands what a player needs to develop is important.
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https://www.sundaynews.co.zw/pakistan-i ... e-in-2021/

Looks like we have 4 test matches coming up at the beginning of next year and some A team cricket. While I don’t like Hami appointing Chamu, having somebody who understands what a player needs to develop is important.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:48 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm


Stoneman Returns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:47 am

Pakistan opening batsman Sami Aslam, aged 24 has decided to leave Pakistan Cricket and play international cricket for some other nation after being ditched from 35 men squad touring NZ.

Will be interesting to see which team he selects for playing international cricket, has been top performer in domestic cricket.Past few years few Pakistani domestic players were seen playing domestic cricket in Zimbabwe, Raza being the top who selected Zimbabwe for international cricket.

http://m.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/cont ... 47079.html


I hope we don't find a situation where pakis and Bangladeshis have found a loophole to pimp themselves out to the cricketing world permanently. The loopholes are tough as I imagine but they have ruined the European cricket scene by just taking over all small development efforts to get locals involved. Annoys me.


Its mostly a Pakistani (and Indian) thing. Teams like Denmark or Belgium end up being 90% Asian. I never understood why Bangladeshis didn't do it also. I suspect Bangladeshi expats aren't good enough even to crack a team like Belgium or Slovenia.


The scene im loosely involved in made genuine progress in getting locals interested around ten years ago. Since then it's all been sun continental students.

I was talking to the ex development officer who quit because he was getting harassed by them because they wanted to be part of every 'development' touring squad and everytime they made a compromise the captain would just exclude the locals and they quit. Was disgraceful.

We also welcome new players into our team and three times apparently in the last decade the Indians of Pakistani guys broke away and made breakaway teams behind our back always on ethnic lines.

Some of its sort of ok because it grows the local comp but it is all underhanded.

So now we have a bunch of Pakistani teams, a Bangladeshi, a few Indians and a British/Aussie/local mishmash.
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^Not surprising.
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^Not surprising.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:56 am

https://www.sundaynews.co.zw/pakistan-i ... e-in-2021/

Looks like we have 4 test matches coming up at the beginning of next year and some A team cricket. While I don’t like Hami appointing Chamu, having somebody who understands what a player needs to develop is important.


Like pretty much everything else this year, 2021 will be 2020 take two

Let’s look forward to a busy year of fixtures
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:10 am


TapsC2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:56 am

https://www.sundaynews.co.zw/pakistan-i ... e-in-2021/

Looks like we have 4 test matches coming up at the beginning of next year and some A team cricket. While I don’t like Hami appointing Chamu, having somebody who understands what a player needs to develop is important.


Like pretty much everything else this year, 2021 will be 2020 take two

Let’s look forward to a busy year of fixtures


4 tests vs Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is fantastic news. Wish there was a Bangladesh series thrown in there as well.
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Is there a point in getting our hopes up till the day of the match when the players take the field? All these future tours thing is just PR from different boards and ICC for long now.
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:43 am

Is there a point in getting our hopes up till the day of the match when the players take the field? All these future tours thing is just PR from different boards and ICC for long now.


ZIM usually don't have a shortage of fixtures or tours (except Tests). Remember 2015-2019 Zimbabwe played like 4th most ODIs out of all nations or something like that. Fixtures against major sides like Pakistan and Afghanistan won't get cancelled as long as the COVID situation is as expected.
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Hearing a few interesting names may be appearing in the Logan Cup, mainly former youngsters who have been away. Whole thing is a shambles still no fixtures and rain on the way. ICC apparently insisting on a bio secure bubble.

Sounds like Jarvis is retiring from cricket which is a real shame.

Vinge Cup may start this Sunday.
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Names please.

What?! Jarvis retiring?
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:53 pm

Hearing a few interesting names may be appearing in the Logan Cup, mainly former youngsters who have been away. Whole thing is a shambles still no fixtures and rain on the way. ICC apparently insisting on a bio secure bubble.

Sounds like Jarvis is retiring from cricket which is a real shame.

Vinge Cup may start this Sunday.


Jarvis retiring :o oh no no please make as a wrong statement 🙏
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:53 pm

Sounds like Jarvis is retiring from cricket which is a real shame.


Wow man, you can't just drop this and run ?
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It would be really sad if we lost Jarvis. Injury? More money in other areas? Wow.. why can’t we just ever be in a position to build a winning team without somebody walking out? He is crucial.

The bio secure environment will be revolutionary for Zim because that means players can’t just pick and choose which fixtures they want to play. They would rather play every game than sit in the hotel. The down side is everybody in Zimbabwe knows that ZC is the richest sports organization so they will have to pay at least 1 million dollars to get that done which will probably see some test matches getting canceled.
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I honestly thought we would keep this core group of players until the next World Cup. Anyway if that’s the case they should use his wages on somebody else
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How long was BT and Jarvis’ famous deals? I thought it was two years right?

If he’s retired it would mean he just saw out that contract.

It’s crucial though we keep our core (the players we want) until the next World Cup campaign.

Maybe even lure one or two players back.

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