I was at a Scotland ODI in Edinbirgh earlier in the year, and people I spoke to there were angry about the amount Zim gets, and yet play so little cricket. Scotland have done brilliant things both on and off the pitch to promote the game there at all levels, with an absolute fraction of the money. They, plus a few other countries are catching up fast, and as you say Googly, Zim are in reverse.
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Robbo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:45 pm
I was at a Scotland ODI in Edinbirgh earlier in the year, and people I spoke to there were angry about the amount Zim gets, and yet play so little cricket. Scotland have done brilliant things both on and off the pitch to promote the game there at all levels, with an absolute fraction of the money. They, plus a few other countries are catching up fast, and as you say Googly, Zim are in reverse.
The clock is ticking....
Cricket In African Continent is hard to grow because of numerous unwanted reasons. Top level now only belongs to South Africa, Zimbabwe is in struggling mode since 2003, Namibia still continuing with associate despite playing the game from long time. Nigeria Cricket recently was of good sign but needs more time to develop same goes with Uganda, Once Surprising Kenya has now being wiped out, other nations in cricket are still not in picture.
As per development is concerned, T20 cricket is very much effective in spreading the game, Asians are top at present, serious cricket is going on among the associates, European Countrues are slowly & steadily taking the game. Windies are playing pivotal role in developing the game in North America. Japan, PNG, Fiji are creating atmosphere of cricket in Pacific, Japan's participation in Under 19 World Cup is a thing to watch for as the country known for developing good atheletic individuals.
Africa & South America are only two continent struggling in spreading the game, but whats amazing to see is the scene completely takes a turn around when the game is changed from cricket to soccer.
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:12 pm
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:24 am
How the John can we afford to host 2 tests all of a sudden? And why aren’t we having reciprocated tours? We just seem to be hosting games now
ZC haven’t hosted a Test for 27 months!!! I know they’re ‘short of cash’ but surely hosting a Two Test Series every 2.25 years is financially achievable
A test match costs over 2 million to host, and yet ZC can’t even afford a decent hotel for the guys to stay in. I don’t get it
I would love to see a realistic cash flow of hosting a test match. You’re playing 5 days of cricket, no way that costs $2m.
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Robbo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:45 pm
I was at a Scotland ODI in Edinbirgh earlier in the year, and people I spoke to there were angry about the amount Zim gets, and yet play so little cricket. Scotland have done brilliant things both on and off the pitch to promote the game there at all levels, with an absolute fraction of the money. They, plus a few other countries are catching up fast, and as you say Googly, Zim are in reverse.
The clock is ticking....
There is a key difference though and that is I assume it is so much easier to get sponsorship in Scotland.
In zim it’s impossible for a few reasons. Some in ZC control and some aren’t. It’s a big factor.
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You need 2 umpires, 10 security guards, 10 groundsmen, a few cameras, some local commentators and a guy selling some ice creams.
Hotel for 20 guys for a month.
A section of the business community would also help if they knew their money would be spent judiciously.
You’d surely defray some expenses selling TV to the Sri Lankans?
I can’t find any useful info on costs on google.
The closest I got was that it costs $25k to host an ODI in the UAE.
Hotel for 20 guys for a month.
A section of the business community would also help if they knew their money would be spent judiciously.
You’d surely defray some expenses selling TV to the Sri Lankans?
I can’t find any useful info on costs on google.
The closest I got was that it costs $25k to host an ODI in the UAE.
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Googly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:46 pm
You need 2 umpires, 10 security guards, 10 groundsmen, a few cameras, some local commentators and a guy selling some ice creams.
Hotel for 20 guys for a month.
A section of the business community would also help if they knew their money would be spent judiciously.
You’d surely defray some expenses selling TV to the Sri Lankans?
I can’t find any useful info on costs on google.
The closest I got was that it costs $25k to host an ODI in the UAE.
Even by that logic, it’s still 100k.
That’s a lot less than 10 mil. I’d say I’m zim it’s much cheaper.
I’d say the ten mil figure takes into account players annual wages as part of the calculation.
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Black Mamba wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:58 pm
Robbo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:45 pm
I was at a Scotland ODI in Edinbirgh earlier in the year, and people I spoke to there were angry about the amount Zim gets, and yet play so little cricket. Scotland have done brilliant things both on and off the pitch to promote the game there at all levels, with an absolute fraction of the money. They, plus a few other countries are catching up fast, and as you say Googly, Zim are in reverse.
The clock is ticking....
Cricket In African Continent is hard to grow because of numerous unwanted reasons. Top level now only belongs to South Africa, Zimbabwe is in struggling mode since 2003, Namibia still continuing with associate despite playing the game from long time. Nigeria Cricket recently was of good sign but needs more time to develop same goes with Uganda, Once Surprising Kenya has now being wiped out, other nations in cricket are still not in picture.
As per development is concerned, T20 cricket is very much effective in spreading the game, Asians are top at present, serious cricket is going on among the associates, European Countrues are slowly & steadily taking the game. Windies are playing pivotal role in developing the game in North America. Japan, PNG, Fiji are creating atmosphere of cricket in Pacific, Japan's participation in Under 19 World Cup is a thing to watch for as the country known for developing good atheletic individuals.
Africa & South America are only two continent struggling in spreading the game, but whats amazing to see is the scene completely takes a turn around when the game is changed from cricket to soccer.
I’m highly sceptical any minor African nation can rise up on their own. It’ll only happen if asians or Europeans come in to run the country’s cricket. Corruption is too deep in the African mindset. Even If some are passionate and patient enough to come in and grow the game, the next set of leaders will show up and pocket the money, or the ones after that.
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And you’d sell TV rights back to the visiting team for a portion of that at least
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Unless there’s cash coming in from TV from this ODI league or the ICC give extra cash, ZC will run out of money if they claim it costs these huge sums to host.
Bear in mind they’ve kept afloat by playing no cricket whatsoever, which apparently costs hundreds of thousands a game. Whenever there’s a game here that’s when all the tricks come out to divert money. The best example is the money that was spent on the qualifiers here. The ICC gave us millions and much of it went astray. The money spent on refurbishing grounds just doesn’t add up, amongst other things.
ZC have about 6 mill to play with, have to keep our Franchise alive, pay each other 20k-30k a month, pay all the staff and players and they claim that there’s never a cent left at the end of the month and now have to play 34 games of international cricket that I’m guessing won’t generate much revenue. I hope I’m wrong.
ZC have to play the games but take poison on the fact that there’s going to be no money left for our franchise games next season. There are going to be some sad faces from the FC guys. If you thought this season started a bit late, wait for next year!
Bear in mind they’ve kept afloat by playing no cricket whatsoever, which apparently costs hundreds of thousands a game. Whenever there’s a game here that’s when all the tricks come out to divert money. The best example is the money that was spent on the qualifiers here. The ICC gave us millions and much of it went astray. The money spent on refurbishing grounds just doesn’t add up, amongst other things.
ZC have about 6 mill to play with, have to keep our Franchise alive, pay each other 20k-30k a month, pay all the staff and players and they claim that there’s never a cent left at the end of the month and now have to play 34 games of international cricket that I’m guessing won’t generate much revenue. I hope I’m wrong.
ZC have to play the games but take poison on the fact that there’s going to be no money left for our franchise games next season. There are going to be some sad faces from the FC guys. If you thought this season started a bit late, wait for next year!
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Hasnian or what ever he was called spoke on cricinfo about the costs of hosting a test match. It was in the million bracket I am sure of it. I’d have a look myself but I’m away and have poor WiFi at the moment
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Hasnain never walked outside of his air conditioned office and then basically spent most of his time in Dubai. Bought and paid for. Useless kretin.
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Googly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:46 pm
You need 2 umpires, 10 security guards, 10 groundsmen, a few cameras, some local commentators and a guy selling some ice creams.
Hotel for 20 guys for a month.
A section of the business community would also help if they knew their money would be spent judiciously.
You’d surely defray some expenses selling TV to the Sri Lankans?
I can’t find any useful info on costs on google.
The closest I got was that it costs $25k to host an ODI in the UAE.
No way it costs just 25K to host an ODI in the UAE. Will have to be at least 100 grand. 25K might just be the rent on a stadium for 8 hours. Then you have security fees. 5 days of a Test match * 7 hours per day * 20 security guards * 10$/hr wage = $7000 right there. And for a large 20K seat stadium, you will probably need more than 20 security guards. And 10 bucks an hour in Dubai is not even a liveable wage.
Then you have medical insurance premiums to cover injury ilness to all players and support staff present. Plus production equipment.
Hosting a Test will be expensive. May not cost 1 million USD, but will cost few hundred thousand at least. If it didn't, Ireland and NZ wouldn't be cancelling and curtailing the number of Tests they play.
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:59 pm
Hasnian or what ever he was called spoke on cricinfo about the costs of hosting a test match. It was in the million bracket I am sure of it. I’d have a look myself but I’m away and have poor WiFi at the moment
Yes, he said that during the Windies tour here in 2017. Ireland Cricket CEO said something similar very recently when they cancelled hosting Bangladesh for a Test.
It’s definitely at least a million dollars. Tv broadcast production would take up a big chunk of that.
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I’m pretty sure he said that because he was initially told that by our guys. When he worked out by the second test under his watch that he’d been duped he was part of the problem.
I’m fairly sure the world over whichever stadium gets a test that it’s payday for the people in the loop, but there’s no way it costs a million bucks.
This was where I got the UAE info-
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/cricke ... s-1.714497
I’ll keep half heartedly looking. Here in Zim at has to be cheaper than anywhere else. There’s no stadium hire and wages are around $1 a day.
I’m fairly sure the world over whichever stadium gets a test that it’s payday for the people in the loop, but there’s no way it costs a million bucks.
This was where I got the UAE info-
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/cricke ... s-1.714497
I’ll keep half heartedly looking. Here in Zim at has to be cheaper than anywhere else. There’s no stadium hire and wages are around $1 a day.
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If a board is not going to make money broadcasting a game then there’s no point, surely then you put up those live feed static cameras and provide a link. With modern technology that cannot cost more than a few thousand bucks for a proper quality set up that you actually get to keep, it’s a one off expense. There’s no need for these 100 ft liquid nitrogen cooled broadcasting trucks with kilometers of cables.
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I see that ICC actually charge to send an anti-doping and anti-corruption team as well.
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If it was so cheap then Ireland would be hosting plenty. I think TV production including the review system is expensive.
As for Scotland it would be interesting to know what their actual running costs look like. They are low when you are an associate nation but once you have to run a completely professional setup its not as easy. I also do not like people picking Zimbabwe as a specific target. Over 10 games home and away they would not beat us. Just because you can win a couple of games does not make you better. Sri Lanka gets 35 million more than us, the ICC even said they are more corrupt than us but when we beat them in Sri Lanka did we want their money? Primitive thinking.
As for Scotland it would be interesting to know what their actual running costs look like. They are low when you are an associate nation but once you have to run a completely professional setup its not as easy. I also do not like people picking Zimbabwe as a specific target. Over 10 games home and away they would not beat us. Just because you can win a couple of games does not make you better. Sri Lanka gets 35 million more than us, the ICC even said they are more corrupt than us but when we beat them in Sri Lanka did we want their money? Primitive thinking.
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Googly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:58 am
If a board is not going to make money broadcasting a game then there’s no point, surely then you put up those live feed static cameras and provide a link. With modern technology that cannot cost more than a few thousand bucks for a proper quality set up that you actually get to keep, it’s a one off expense. There’s no need for these 100 ft liquid nitrogen cooled broadcasting trucks with kilometers of cables.
I think test matches have to be broadcast. 1 ZC associate once told me it costs 250k to host a t20. That caught me by surprise as that sounds like way too much.
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Some of the modern test requirements need to be relaxed. DRS is expensive and we don't need it for Ireland vs Zimbabwe or the Afghans.
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