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[Draft 2]: World ODI Teams | 2010 - present

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foreignfield wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:24 pm

I'll definitely pick my favourite players regardless of stats (as long as some of them are still available), but out of curiosity: will you be using career stats or only stats from 2010 onwards?


January 1, 2010 onwards vs top 13 ODI teams only.
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Foreign field takes the final spot.

I’m a bit worried Rusty signed up but may not show up for the draft. Please confirm participation.
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OK guys, draft order has been finalized via reverse random draw...I will repost the rules below the draft order.

#9) rusty17

#8) Kriterion_BD

#7) eugene

#6) foreignfield

#5) Mueddie28

#4) brmtaylor.com admin

And now for the 3rd pick in the World ODI XI Draft...

#3) jaybro

Which leaves the remaining two guys with a coin toss chance of getting the first pick...

#2) grant

And the first selection overall goes to..................

#1) zimbos_05

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Rules:

1) Draft order will be random (random draw) and format will be snake, same as Draft 1.

2) Players must be from the top 13 ODI teams (ODI Super League teams). Players must have played at least 1 (one) ODI.

3) Each GM will be responsible for arranging the batting order of his/her playing XI. If none is specified, the player will be put in the most logical order by the League Commissioner. Further it is advisable that each GM designates the role they want each player to play (eg "bat", "seam", "bat/spin", or "WK-bat"). If not designated, I will use the comments by the GM in the thread to assign roles. If there are little or no comments, I will give the most reasonable role for your players. Player roles can be modified at any time until final squad submission after the draft ends (exact date will be announced after the draft ends).

4) Each player selected will be given a score which will take his batting/bowling average and strike rate/econ rate and normalize it vs the era median value for his batting role (ie openers vs top order vs finisher vs lower order for batsmen). For example:

If Rohit Sharma is selected as an opener, his batting average and strike rate will be compared against the median global average (24.12) and strike rates (72.49) for ODI openers, as per Cricinfo's statsguru ([url]https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... atting/url]). This is most sensible and fair way of rating players, IMO.

All 11 players' batting scores will be counted towards the final team score. However, only those players who the GM designates as "bowlers" will have their bowling score count towards the final. Obviously, you need at least 5 designated bowlers. Part timers can give you more players to count, bringing added options to your team, but the scoring will still be based on 5 bowlers. For example if you have 4 specialist bowlers, they will all count as 1 bowler each. And if you have 3 all-rounders as bowlers...the all-rounders will each count as one-third of a bowler.

5) I will be using google drives spreadsheets to help with calculations of the various squads. Anyone who has gmail and would like to see how the scoring is being done is free to check my work (but you won't be able to edit).

6) LC may amend or cancel any rule at any time and will notify GMs in this thread of the rule change, ahead of time. I will try my best not to change any rules unless absolutely necessary.

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Draft Round 1

1) zimbos_05

2) grant

3) jaybro

4) brmtaylor.com admin

5) Mueddie28

6) foreignfield

7) eugene

8) Kriterion_BD

9) rusty17

Draft Round 2

10) rusty17

11) Kriterion_BD

12) eugene

13) foreignfield

14) Mueddie28

15) brmtaylor.com admin

16) jaybro

17) grant

18) zimbos_05

And without further adieu, zimbos_05 you are now on the clock! You have aprox 24 hours from this post to make your selection.
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Oh damn...pressure is on.

With my first pick I am going for...

AB De Villiers
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:27 am

Oh damn...pressure is on.

With my first pick I am going for...

AB De Villiers


Good choice
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Virat Kohli will be my first pick.
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Pick #3 Kumar Sangakkara
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First 3 picks in the books:

1) AB De Villiers (zimbos)

2) Virat Kohli (grant)

3) Kumar Sangakkara (jaybro)
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jaybro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:37 am

Pick #3 Kumar Sangakkara


You stole my first pick! :) There goes my plan to pick a Gentlemen's XI with Sanga as captain.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:52 pm
We will do 3 random innings for each player instead of a best of 3 series. That should please everyone.


That would be interesting if somewhat time-consuming playing conditions in real life 😂

With the random innings calculator per position I should have put Shakib at 3 where he averages 58, twice his av. at no 6. But who would you want to bat for your life at no. 3? I'd still go with Dravid every time. It seems I'm staring at totals below 200 for my team here 😂
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foreignfield wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:09 am


Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:52 pm
We will do 3 random innings for each player instead of a best of 3 series. That should please everyone.


That would be interesting if somewhat time-consuming playing conditions in real life 😂

With the random innings calculator per position I should have put Shakib at 3 where he averages 58, twice his av. at no 6. But who would you want to bat for your life at no. 3? I'd still go with Dravid every time. It seems I'm staring at totals below 200 for my team here 😂


Well, who would have thought that Chanderpaul also has way better 2010 stats at no. 3 than at his more customary no. 5 position, where he has only three innings to choose from, i.e. he will have the same score in every draft play-off (not that I'm expecting to feature in more than one match anyway.) In fact it seems as almost every player I drafted (apart from the natural no. 3 Dravid) blossomed at no. 3 in the 2010s: Hafeez 44 vs 33/35 as opener (even more attractive at 5 with 72), even Jacob Oram averages 42 there.

Just out of curiosity: Do you consider openers irrespective of their exact batting positions (one or two)? I think I put Tendular at no. 1 for seniority's sake but find that he never batted there in the 2010s.

I wonder if anyone has gone to the trouble to rearrange their batting furniture according Statsguru's analysis.
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I was tempted to write match reports for the play-offs, but that's become pointless now.


AB to face his first ball ... Steyn bowls, AB goes for the drive, but can only nick it to first slip. A golden duck for the star player and no. one pick ... but wait, here's his ton ... and just after reaching 50 he throws his wicket way as if he was born north of the Limpopo ... and so, Ladies and Gentlemen, he ends his innings with an average of 50,34567 and a strike rate that I can't tell you right now because my head is hurting ... for the rest of the match my colleague the computer will take over ...
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😂 😂 😂
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foreignfield wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:58 am
Just out of curiosity: Do you consider openers irrespective of their exact batting positions (one or two)? I think I put Tendular at no. 1 for seniority's sake but find that he never batted there in the 2010s.

I wonder if anyone has gone to the trouble to rearrange their batting furniture according Statsguru's analysis.


Hopefully opening position doesn't matter, but if it does I'll swap Finch and Taylor because Taylor's got a better record at 2.

1. Aaron Finch

2. Brendan Taylor

3. Jacques Kallis

4. Steve Smith

5. Michael Clarke

6. Wesley Madhevere

7. MS Dhoni (c/wk)

8. Ravi Jadeja

9. Mitchell Johnson

10. Pat Cummins

11. Josh Hazlewood
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No opening position doesn't matter. At least not for this Draft.
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I still don't feel batting positions should matter. When you are compiling all-star teams the batting orders have to be more flexible to fit everyone in.
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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eugene wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:05 pm

I still don't feel batting positions should matter. When you are compiling all-star teams the batting orders have to be more flexible to fit everyone in.


Thats also a fair point. So what I'm going to do, instead of 3 random innings, we will do 2 random innings. One just from the position the player was selected, and the other from all positions. I think thats fair and balanced.
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whats the plan with the bowlers?
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rusty17 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:58 pm

whats the plan with the bowlers?


Generally same plan as the batsmen. Only major difference is bowling position won't be considered like batting position. Just if they seamers or spinners.
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