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2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

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The new FTP is due sometime in June or July, since the last 8 year FTP was finalized and publicized at that time in 2014.

This thread will be for any information pertaining to the new FTP and not the existing one.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:19 am


sam_ahm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:45 pm

Yeah that's a good post. I agree.

If we look at it, Ireland and Afghanistan have barely done anything to justify their test status. Which is why I never compare Zimbabwe with these two, because Zimbabwe have done a bloody good job as a test playing nation over the last 30+ years. Something which Ireland and Afghanistan can only dream of as of now.

Afghanistan's lack of support for women's game is appaling to say the least and there is no reason why they shouldn't be stripped off test status. I'm just being fair here. They instead enjoy spending all the money on Men's game without having to worry about women and get a greater share than a team like Zimbabwe who have historically been a far greater and bigger test nation than Afghanistan can dream of.

Anyways, I think we are going to see another all white ball tour of Ireland come August.


Bit harsh on Afghanistan for the following reason. AFG have arguably out-achieved Bangladesh by coming within a whisker of the semifinal of an ODI world cup. Bangladesh have never won 4 games at a world cup, and have never beaten more than 2 top sides in a single tournament. the Afghans knocked off 3 top teams last year (England, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan). And they almost beat eventual champions Australia.

Regarding Ireland, I've come to respect them tremendously over the past few months given their outspoken stance against colonialism and apartheid.


What we seem to forget Kriterion is that teams like Kenya have made a WC Semi Final and have beaten the likes of India, Sri Lanka and West Indies in internationals including World Cups.

Zimbabwe also almost made the semi finals in 1999 WC and had beaten the likes of India, South Africa, Australia and England at World Cups.

So we cannot really say that Afghanistan have been coming of age based on their white ball exploits. It's all recency bias.

Bangladesh have achieved more in Test Cricket lately with test wins in NZ and SL, if I'm not wrong Bangladesh have test wins in West Indies as well. Afghanistan are miles off from that.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 am

What we seem to forget Kriterion is that teams like Kenya have made a WC Semi Final and have beaten the likes of India, Sri Lanka and West Indies in internationals including World Cups.

Zimbabwe also almost made the semi finals in 1999 WC and had beaten the likes of India, South Africa, Australia and England at World Cups.

So we cannot really say that Afghanistan have been coming of age based on their white ball exploits. It's all recency bias.

Bangladesh have achieved more in Test Cricket lately with test wins in NZ and SL, if I'm not wrong Bangladesh have test wins in West Indies as well. Afghanistan are miles off from that.


The Kenya example is one of cricket's biggest fallacies. Kenya's 2003 WC campaign was actually less impressive than Bangladesh's in 2007. Kenya only progressed because they had two games forfeited as walkovers. The only top side Kenya beat was Sri Lanka and they qualified for the semi based on that. In 2007 Bangladesh beat India - one of the pre-tournament favorites + South Africa who were the #1 ranked ODI side at the time of the game.

Similar story with Zimbabwe. They beat India and SA in 1999...the exact same teams that Bangladesh beat in 2007.

Having said all that...I am not entirely sure if Afghanistan's 2023 performance was more than a fluke. Their performances in bilaterals since then seem to suggest either a lack of form or that 2023 was a fluke.
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Crastle_cog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:36 am

Like every single one of kriterion's posts, he had me till the last paragraph 😂


Isn’t the socialist haven of Canada a relatively poor fit? I’d have thought Wyoming or Mississippi would be a more natural match.
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I just don't understand what ireland's political approach have to do with likening their cricket team lol. Could've just said something positive about their cricket as a justification rather.
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We getting trudeau out in 2025 though, don't ya worry 😂
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Crastle_cog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:32 pm

We getting trudeau out in 2025 though, don't ya worry 😂


Yeah but even their conservatives believe in universal healthcare.
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Crastle_cog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:32 pm

We getting trudeau out in 2025 though, don't ya worry 😂


Yeah but even their conservatives believe in universal healthcare and recreations marijuana.
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Crastle_cog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:30 pm

I just don't understand what ireland's political approach have to do with likening their cricket team lol. Could've just said something positive about their cricket as a justification rather.


Irish cricket has been a bit inconsistent lately. They did get a convincing away Test win vs Afghanistan which is a pretty big achievement given how strong AFG are against those types of teams
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:27 am

Bangladesh tests moving to 2025 is a bit disappointing but not a disaster as Bangladesh generally keep their commitments and we can be very hopeful of those games happening.

So March, May, July, August, we've got fixtures, fair enough. What we need now is for some good results!


It makes sense from a scheduling point of view to add the Tests to the limited overs tour in March 2025. It should be a very similar schedule to the current Bangladesh v Sri Lanka series going on right now.

If all goes to plan, Zimbabwe will play 11 Tests in 2025. lol
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:54 pm


Ireland's Test match against Zimbabwe, pencilled in for Stormont in late July, is reportedly being scrapped as the beleaguered Board are yet again struggling with their finances.



Sounds like Ireland are now going ahead with the Test but have scrapped all of the white ball fixtures of the tour. ZC not happy.....

Effectively now having to fly to Ireland in the middle of our off-season for just 1 single Test match.
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It will never make sense why The ICC don’t fund test cricket for Zim, Ireland and Afghanistan. Really doesn’t make any sense. They want it to die
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:53 pm


zimfan1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:54 pm


Ireland's Test match against Zimbabwe, pencilled in for Stormont in late July, is reportedly being scrapped as the beleaguered Board are yet again struggling with their finances.



Sounds like Ireland are now going ahead with the Test but have scrapped all of the white ball fixtures of the tour. ZC not happy.....

Effectively now having to fly to Ireland in the middle of our off-season for just 1 single Test match.


I don’t mind it. ZC has form (I’m pretty sure we cancelled on Ireland twice in the last few years) so can’t really be complaining. Ideally, the cancelled LOI games should be converted to a Test to make it a 2 Test series.
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Netherlands and Scotland would be happy to play in limited overs games..
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Scrapping all the LOIs doesn't make any sense to me. They could have at least retained T20s along with a test.
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When’s our next test? I cannot keep up
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In Ireland, end of July.
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Ireland are cancelling theri series vs Australia outright due to lack of cricket grounds and pitches. Two thoughts here:

1) Zimbabwe should consider themselves fortunat they are getting a Test match fixture when the Aussie series is scrapped alltogether.

2) Pretty shambolic that a Test playing nation doesn't have at least one full time ground at home.
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It’s also setting us up because we are supposed to host Ireland in January. 2 tests are scheduled for that tour. That’s a million dollars if we use this figure of 500k for a test match that’s always going around. In fact the Irish guys once suggested it costs over a million for them to host and that’s why they avoid it

Afghanistan should be coming just before them and they might expect us to fulfill the full schedule which has 2 tests. South Africa and New Zealand are coming next year for 2 tests each as well and I’m sure those matches will be played because you can’t miss the opportunity to play a big side. So ZC will probably have a huge test cricket bill next year. I see a minimum of 1 test against both Afghanistan and Ireland plus the 4 tests in total against South Africa and New Zealand. That could cost them 3 million.

The India tour should bring in some decent money so maybe they will use that to cover their costs
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Disgusting how teams are having to cancel tours because of lack of money and the ICC doesn't do a thing about it.
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Zimbabwe ‘A’ playing two one dayers against Jersey national team in Yorkshire on 1st and 2nd of August

Only other confirmed fixture I know of is a match against Kent 2nd XI at Beckenham on 17th July.

Not sure if anything else is confirmed yet for this A/U25 tour.
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