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The new FTP is due sometime in June or July, since the last 8 year FTP was finalized and publicized at that time in 2014.

This thread will be for any information pertaining to the new FTP and not the existing one.
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Wow, did not know cricket was included. I feel ZC should send over a development team, although unsure if the likes of Namibia and Uganda will participate?
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Apparently even SA have entered. And Namibia, Uganda etc. It's everyone.
Well SA will obviously send a B team due to IPL. But I didn't expect there to be so much interest, especially because I'd think the cricket facilities in Ghana would be like Bulawayo div2
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Yeah I've read this too, so some more game time for the men, apparently this will also serve as the Africa Qualifier for 2028 Olympics. So something here to play for.
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I think the Olympic qualification bit may have got lost in translation somewhere by the organisers and is probably not the case. As much as I wish the 6 Olympic teams would be the Host + 5 Regional Qualifiers, I think there’s more chance of it snowing in Zimbabwe.

Pretty sure qualification will unfortunately end up being by on rankings and this may mark the start of the ranking period or something like that
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The matches in the Asian Games recently were all T20Is, even though the major teams had clashes and couldn't send their best sides. I wonder if this will be the case here as well. If so, Zim need all the ranking points they can get! Should send more or less as strong a team as possible imo, as we know there will be at least 3 teams who would give Zim a proper game, even with a full strength team.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:43 pm

The ICC made a mistake by giving everyone T20I status in my not so humble opinion. I am for expanding the game, but they should have kept T20I status for perhaps the top 30-40 sides. And or give to everyone but don’t recognize Asian Games, Africa Games, or the Olympics as T20I.

One of the consequences is that records and statistics begin to lose meaning. The highest team total in T20I cricket now belongs to Nepal…not India or Australia. That to me just doesn’t make sense.


100% disagree.

In my opinion one of the best things the ICC have ever done. Shake up the arrogant establishment. Hopefully we can see much more obscure nations than Nepal hold significant records.
Oh no, not the sanctity of T20 statistics. The storied history of the format has been ruined. How will anyone ever take the format seriously because Nepal hold the highest score.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:43 pm

The ICC made a mistake by giving everyone T20I status in my not so humble opinion. I am for expanding the game, but they should have kept T20I status for perhaps the top 30-40 sides. And or give to everyone but don’t recognize Asian Games, Africa Games, or the Olympics as T20I.

One of the consequences is that records and statistics begin to lose meaning. The highest team total in T20I cricket now belongs to Nepal…not India or Australia. That to me just doesn’t make sense.


Probably the most idiotic thing I've ever read. You bringing us bengalis down lad 😂 😂
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On second thought you guys are kinda right.

I don’t really rate the T20I format apart from it being somewhat entertaining. But to me it’s not really *cricket*, so what if Nepal holds a world record?

As long as they continue to preserve the sanctity of ODIs and Tests, we’re good. 20 teams have ODI status currently and that’s plenty. Furthermore 32 teams are in the running for the ODI World Cup via Leaue 2 and the Challenge leagues. And with the WC going back to 14 teams, overall we’re in a good space.
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Whether you rate it or not, whether we like it or not. T20 is the only future of the game. The more inclusive, the better.
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Crastle_cog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:42 am

Whether you rate it or not, whether we like it or not. T20 is the only future of the game. The more inclusive, the better.


Inclusivity is bad for the BCCI and their control of the game. There is very little justification to give Vietnam the same status in any format of the game as New Zealand. Having 30-40 teams is expansion enough.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:49 am

As long as they continue to preserve the sanctity of ODIs and Tests, we’re good.


On the contrary, I'd love to see all teams given ODI status in the same way. Maybe not Tests since I doubt any lower ranked sides can afford to stage any, but if ICC remove some of the red tape around it maybe that'll be possible too.

The official status gives much needed attention to Associate games, makes people sit up and take notice. If you look at the history of international cricket, so many teams and players have been lost to the game due to unnecessary gatekeeping. A world where you can play ODIs and Tests for your country, whether you come from India or Japan or Nigeria is definitely something I'd like to see.

As for the statistics thing, it is ridiculously easy to filter statistics to only include matches played against the top 10 or top 20 or whatever teams.
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^ Agree completely
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pillowprocter wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:25 am


Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:49 am

As long as they continue to preserve the sanctity of ODIs and Tests, we’re good.


On the contrary, I'd love to see all teams given ODI status in the same way. Maybe not Tests since I doubt any lower ranked sides can afford to stage any, but if ICC remove some of the red tape around it maybe that'll be possible too.

The official status gives much needed attention to Associate games, makes people sit up and take notice. If you look at the history of international cricket, so many teams and players have been lost to the game due to unnecessary gatekeeping. A world where you can play ODIs and Tests for your country, whether you come from India or Japan or Nigeria is definitely something I'd like to see.

As for the statistics thing, it is ridiculously easy to filter statistics to only include matches played against the top 10 or top 20 or whatever teams.


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I actually think becoming a full member has made Ireland stagnate a bit. It’s very costly, from the competitive salaries you have to pay, the domestic tournaments you have to organize and the quality of the broadcasts you have to organize for matches against other full members.

I also don’t think Ireland can get away with paying domestic players substandard wages because of the cost of living there. Then there is making the womens game go pro as well. It’s a real struggle. The administrators who might have been running the game for not much gain will start asking for more too once they see millions hitting the bank account.

I think with the way T20s are dominating now being a top associate like Scotland or The Netherlands might be better. Their top players are paid and trained by county teams, no pressure to pay a million for a test series and they still get to play us and go to the World Cup
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:19 am

I actually think becoming a full member has made Ireland stagnate a bit. It’s very costly, from the competitive salaries you have to pay, the domestic tournaments you have to organize and the quality of the broadcasts you have to organize for matches against other full members.

I also don’t think Ireland can get away with paying domestic players substandard wages because of the cost of living there. Then there is making the womens game go pro as well. It’s a real struggle. The administrators who might have been running the game for not much gain will start asking for more too once they see millions hitting the bank account.

I think with the way T20s are dominating now being a top associate like Scotland or The Netherlands might be better. Their top players are paid and trained by county teams, no pressure to pay a million for a test series and they still get to play us and go to the World Cup


Yeah that's a good post. I agree.

If we look at it, Ireland and Afghanistan have barely done anything to justify their test status. Which is why I never compare Zimbabwe with these two, because Zimbabwe have done a bloody good job as a test playing nation over the last 30+ years. Something which Ireland and Afghanistan can only dream of as of now.

Afghanistan's lack of support for women's game is appaling to say the least and there is no reason why they shouldn't be stripped off test status. I'm just being fair here. They instead enjoy spending all the money on Men's game without having to worry about women and get a greater share than a team like Zimbabwe who have historically been a far greater and bigger test nation than Afghanistan can dream of.

Anyways, I think we are going to see another all white ball tour of Ireland come August.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:45 pm

Yeah that's a good post. I agree.

If we look at it, Ireland and Afghanistan have barely done anything to justify their test status. Which is why I never compare Zimbabwe with these two, because Zimbabwe have done a bloody good job as a test playing nation over the last 30+ years. Something which Ireland and Afghanistan can only dream of as of now.

Afghanistan's lack of support for women's game is appaling to say the least and there is no reason why they shouldn't be stripped off test status. I'm just being fair here. They instead enjoy spending all the money on Men's game without having to worry about women and get a greater share than a team like Zimbabwe who have historically been a far greater and bigger test nation than Afghanistan can dream of.

Anyways, I think we are going to see another all white ball tour of Ireland come August.


Bit harsh on Afghanistan for the following reason. AFG have arguably out-achieved Bangladesh by coming within a whisker of the semifinal of an ODI world cup. Bangladesh have never won 4 games at a world cup, and have never beaten more than 2 top sides in a single tournament. the Afghans knocked off 3 top teams last year (England, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan). And they almost beat eventual champions Australia.

Regarding Ireland, I've come to respect them tremendously over the past few months given their outspoken stance against colonialism and apartheid.
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Like every single one of kriterion's posts, he had me till the last paragraph 😂
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