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2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

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The new FTP is due sometime in June or July, since the last 8 year FTP was finalized and publicized at that time in 2014.

This thread will be for any information pertaining to the new FTP and not the existing one.
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Williams is an incredible cricketer, absolutely.

But he averages about 33 in domestic List A cricket in Zimbabwe I think. People find it hard to accept but Gary Ballance is/was a completely different level to anybody else in our system and was probably a better cricketer than the likes of Williams/Raza/Ervine/Taylor.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:20 pm

Nah, the BCCI has said the GOI is prohibiting them playing PAK…not advising them against it. Of course, that may or may nkt be true because India and Pak are playing bilaterally in many other sports. But taken at fave value, the BCCI’s statement is total gov intereference. But should the ICC ban India for that? I say no because obviously cricket without India is nkt cricket anymore. IMO.


Matters of international security would probably supersede a group staging a coup to take control of the board. ICC anti-government stance is there to protect the latter, not advise on security threats.

You are comparing oranges to watermelons and claiming they are the same size.
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It’s not an issue of security because they are hosting PAK for the World Cup game and doing so in the most hostile venue (Ahmedabad) in the most high profile event. This proves “security” is merely an excuse. The real reason is punitive and the BCCI says the direction is from their government orders (not advice).
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:20 am

It’s not an issue of security because they are hosting PAK for the World Cup game and doing so in the most hostile venue (Ahmedabad) in the most high profile event. This proves “security” is merely an excuse. The real reason is punitive and the BCCI says the direction is from their government orders (not advice).


I don't think you're understanding the point and I can't be bothered trying to explain it if you can't see the differences.
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Back to actual FTP discussion, still no news on Afghanistan series. It looks more and more unlikely now.

I don't know what the Afghans are thinking because if they lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh in Asia cup first round, which is very much possible, then that is it. They have only those 2 games before the WC.

They don't have any other series planned. So a sane board would rather priorotize at least the LOIs against Zimbabwe.
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No please no more Afghanistan. They can find other people to play. They are very much focused on the T10 for now
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From the look of things we still have all the players on board. For now. Unlike 2018 this time from what I'm picking up they are blaming themselves more than anything. They feel like they owe us. We all know things can change overnight with guys like Sean but the vibe is definitely different from 2018. A farewell tour should be the very least if somebody is mentally drained.
Quite a few Afghans are coming for the Zim Afro T10 it would make sense to have at least a white ball tour afterwards
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Isaacweasle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:06 am

Quite a few Afghans are coming for the Zim Afro T10 it would make sense to have at least a white ball tour afterwards


It is Afghanistan's home series and was supposed to happen in the UAE.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:19 am

Back to actual FTP discussion, still no news on Afghanistan series. It looks more and more unlikely now.

I don't know what the Afghans are thinking because if they lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh in Asia cup first round, which is very much possible, then that is it. They have only those 2 games before the WC.

They don't have any other series planned. So a sane board would rather priorotize at least the LOIs against Zimbabwe.


It appears the series was postponed to sometime between February and June 2024 (probably March 2024).

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No Afghanistan and no World Cup means Zimbabwe doesn't play until they host Ireland in December (1 Test, 3 ODIs and 3T20Is).
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Yes, I just saw this too, Afghanistan have pushed this series to sometime between Feb and June next year. I think they will go ahead and play this sometime in Feb/Mar.

Zimbabwe actually have Africa T20WC Qualifiers from 20th Nov (A day after WC ends) so surely ZC may organize at least one series before that, probably with any of the associates, for preparation.

But yeah, this appears to be a long lean period for Zimbabwe. At least until November.
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South Africa may end up sending a second-string team to New Zealand due to the SA20 and IPL.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/csa- ... ts-1388386
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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Yeah I don’t know how any league outside the IPL and PSL make any money. Like who cares about South African domestic cricket? Even most South Africans don’t care about cricket? So where is the money coming from?

One would hope these leagues all fold in a few years. I can’t see MLC or ILT20 attracting any fan interest domestically or abroad.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 4:47 pm

Yeah I don’t know how any league outside the IPL and PSL make any money. Like who cares about South African domestic cricket? Even most South Africans don’t care about cricket? So where is the money coming from?

One would hope these leagues all fold in a few years. I can’t see MLC or ILT20 attracting any fan interest domestically or abroad.


The SA20 sold out most games. Was a huge success, really big crowds.

And of course - it’s all about the Indian betting markets.
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Yeah but betting markets are wholly unconnected to the actual league or anyone connected to the leagues. At least they are supposed to be. So how do the leagues make money off the betting syndicates?
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Honestly, forget Afghanistan. They treat us like crap, it's about time we did the same to them and start looking at other nations to foster better relationships with.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:48 pm

Yeah but betting markets are wholly unconnected to the actual league or anyone connected to the leagues. At least they are supposed to be. So how do the leagues make money off the betting syndicates?


I'm sure there are a number of links to betting markets to the owners. There is certainly a T20 bubble which is bound to burst though. No way all these leagues can survive, the financial model seems unviable for most.
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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I do agree, a lot of these leagues will struggle for relevance and already are.

SAT20 was a success though, BBL is also doing well... But most of them are beginning to struggle.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:34 am

I do agree, a lot of these leagues will struggle for relevance and already are.

SAT20 was a success though, BBL is also doing well... But most of them are beginning to struggle.


I think the problem stems from these leagues being started up by business men in countries where they are only doing so for the business benefit.

IPL, BBL and the Hundred are run by the boards, so their is some sanction to it and proper cricket acumen behind it.

The MLC, GLT20, UAE leagues, T10...these are just random leagues and are in countries that don't really have any criceketing acumen or relevance. It's purely about the money.

This Afro league has the potential to be something good for Zim/Africa, but the whole thing is just an Indian run competition and production. Indian hosts in the draft. Indian TV presenters. A category to sign Indian players. A lot of the signed up players being Indian, and so many of them are just kind of crap.

Someone posted a photo of TM in India last year or so and all I can imagine is that he sold everything to the Indians to make a quick buck
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