ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Googly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:43 pm

How does Lamb get appointed the batting coach when there’s no time left to coach? 😂 They’ve been practicing for about a year.

It starts in a month. He should just pitch up on the day and they could save a month’s salary.

I guess they need a name on the program where it says - Batting Coach 😂

For the team to play it’s first international a few days before the WC does not auger well. We’re in miracle territory if anyone is expecting better than 12th spot.

There are some good batters in particular in that side, they deserve better treatment than that.

Greg has been playing club cricket in Ireland, don't think he did that well, only averaged 20 with the bat.

Another warm up game for the U19s side against a Zimbabwe Select side (more accurately Zim Random XI)

Cephas made a quick start and scored 60, he should move to the Rhinos if the Eagles aren’t going to select him.

Myers taking 3 wickets, I wonder if he’s changed his bowling action? Looked awful two years ago

Runs from Marumani & Tugwete getting them home

https://www.crichq.com/matches/806863/2nd_innings

Another Zim U19s warm up game v Zim Select XI, made up of mainly Eagles’ players who didn’t make the Logan Cup side, plus Luke Jongwe who took 4/34 & made 30 odd.

Concerning for the U19s side that the ‘big 3’ of Shumba, Myers & Madhevere all failed with the bat, plus Myers only bowled 1.2 overs so looks like he’s picked up an injury?

Luke Oldknow, Dane Schadendorf & Tugwete rescuer the innings all making half centuries, whilst it was the spin of Shumba, Madhevere & Nyangoni doing the damage.

https://www.crichq.com/matches/807171/2nd_innings

And how many exactly are expected to carry on playing when the tournament concludes? I’ll say 3 or 4 at best.

Even if we win the entire thing (ha!) it would mean sweet f**k all, because the players wouldn’t continue their development into the national side

If we were to play moneyball, we would be well served to have 3 progress from this batch to the national side as rags going forward and a further 2 Logan cup regs.

It’s doable. There’s a few hyped ones so as long as they kick in and the next batch, and the next, we have out replacements.

To survive in any capacity we need a couple From this batch

To answer your question FF it seems there are two keepers in the squad, one being Dane Schadendorf & the other being young Marumani, from following the scorecards I’d say in the strongest XI Schadendorf will play as the keeper.

Going off scorecards & the precious little info available on these guys, I’d say batting is going to be their strength with lots expected from guys like Myers, Shumba, Madhevere & Schadendorf. Young Tugwete who is also apparently a very good footballer has been doing ok with the bat as well.

Bowling wise it seems the U19s are following in the footsteps of the senior team with them depending on a lot of part time spin from Shumba & Madhevere, Nyangoni who is a left arm wrist spinner has also been doing well.

In the pace department it’s hard to know how well young Brendon James & Samuel Ruwisi will go after they didn’t seem to play any warm up games prior to the squad being selected & haven’t set the world alight in the Zim Select games either.

The U19s team has always been the No.1 stream for talent for Zimbabwe cricket so it’s critical some of these guys commit to ZC, Gary Brent mentioned that he’s seen some guys in that squad he’d like to get into the ACHPP, maybe there is finally a pathway for these young guys from school cricket to international cricket?

Its a tough group of ZIM. BD have probably their most balanced U-19 side in recent history. Our batting is quite strong, the spinners are almost surely decent as always too. But for the first time we have an actual pace attack with all 4 of seamers looking like certain national team prospects. Pakistan always do well at the age group level as well, and Naseem Shah will be leading their attack after he just took a Test five-for yesterday!

Looking at Zimbabwe’s last two groups at this event this is still their best chance of progressing, in 2018 they had Australia & India which they were never getting past & in the 2016 edition they had England & eventual winners West Indies.

Can’t say I know anything about the Pakistan & Bangladesh sides but I’m still confident this is their best chance to go through since 2006.

jaybro wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:25 am

Looking at Zimbabwe’s last two groups at this event this is still their best chance of progressing, in 2018 they had Australia & India which they were never getting past & in the 2016 edition they had England & eventual winners West Indies.

Can’t say I know anything about the Pakistan & Bangladesh sides but I’m still confident this is their best chance to go through since 2006.

That's what I thought too. But I have hardly followed the fortunes of Pak and BD in U19 cricket so I don't know how strong or weak they are. But I have a strange mixed feeling about this. If Zim U19 do progress to the next round, it would give some kind of legitimacy to Utseya's coaching role and he'll line up for bigger things in future...

Would have loved this squad with Mangongo.

jaybro wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:25 am

Looking at Zimbabwe’s last two groups at this event this is still their best chance of progressing, in 2018 they had Australia & India which they were never getting past & in the 2016 edition they had England & eventual winners West Indies.

Can’t say I know anything about the Pakistan & Bangladesh sides but I’m still confident this is their best chance to go through since 2006.

Idk much about the PAK side beyond Naseem but this is one of the strongest BD sides at the U-19 level, and we usually always make it to the knockout stages. We are most likely favored to top the group.

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:27 pm

jaybro wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:25 am

Looking at Zimbabwe’s last two groups at this event this is still their best chance of progressing, in 2018 they had Australia & India which they were never getting past & in the 2016 edition they had England & eventual winners West Indies.

Can’t say I know anything about the Pakistan & Bangladesh sides but I’m still confident this is their best chance to go through since 2006.

Idk much about the PAK side beyond Naseem but this is one of the strongest BD sides at the U-19 level, and we usually always make it to the knockout stages. We are most likely favored to top the group.

Never one to underestimate Bangladesh’s chances lol

How much exposure have these boys had to conditions they’re going to see in South Africa?

jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:03 am

How much exposure have these boys had to conditions they’re going to see in South Africa?

This U-19 side has done well in NZ (won the series 4-1) and usually dominates England in English conditions. SA conditions will be alien to all teams barring SA themselves. Our U-19 usually play well until the knockouts, which is why topping the group is as far as one can predict with our boys :D

Given their relative strength, they are probably a top 4 side for the 2020 event. Its a well rounded side both in batting and bowling, and the fielding is decent as well.

Samuel Ruwisi has been withdrawn due to a back injury, replaced by Nkosilathi Nungu.

Another couple of Zim U19s v Zim XI games

Dion Myers finding form at the right time with a big 150!!! Milton Shumba also spent some time in the middle plus took another 3’wickets, looks destined to be the perfect replacement for Sean Williams

https://www.crichq.com/matches/808264/2nd_innings

In this match Williams Mashinge hit a quick fire 50 to get Zim XI over 300, Shumba & Wes Madhevere again with the best bowling figures, it really seems they are the best bowlers innthenside which doesn’t bode well for the WC.

Only Dane Schadendorf & G Chirawu made decent scores in reply as Myers got a first ball duck

https://www.crichq.com/matches/808575/2nd_innings

Just read Mukhulani’s inspirational send off speech 😂

“You can only be u19 once!”

Unless you’re Madhevere, Shumba or Myers, then you can be u19 almost as many times as you like. 😂

They’re good players, I’m just laughing at what was said.

We must have more u19 WC repeat caps than any other team.

This young Tugwete lad is a decent player, he’s on a soccer scholarship in The States. He’s probably the best schoolboy hockey player in the land, breathtaking skills, but he’s not likely to touch a cricket bat ever again after this WC and highly unlikely to return to our shores except for Xmas holidays.

A couple of WC’s ago they picked a South African boy who took the WC holiday and never returned. That selection probably resulted in Byrom and Welch leaving for greener pastures 😂, definitely ZC’s biggest blunder in terms of losing quality players in recent times. What would they give to see a rapier and a broadsword crossing that boundary line now? Well they don’t give a s**t, they’ll only stare at each other in dumbfounded indignation and disbelief the day after we get our allocation halved and start whining about racism within the ICC, but us as fans would be licking our lips.

Mark my words- Byrom is good enough to open for England and I predict he will get a shot in the next 5 years. Here’s a big statement- there’s no one in world cricket with more time on the ball, he’s going to be a batting superstar. ZC “selectors” swapped him for a 5 ft 6 South African who’s now a body builder 😂

I guess Rands talks.

So Rameez Ahmed is batting 11 and not bowling!?

A lot of people in the school system have been saying that he was only selected due to a large ‘financial donation’ from his parents. And he’s Ill equipped and is exposing himself to a safety hazard by being there.

This is only going to fuel that talk. Don’t think he’s in the hood books