https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/66148152
Really hope he gets to 2027 somehow.
Some of these boys have been through the wringer but we seem to be in the best place for years now.
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Great stuff. None of the big three retiring anytime soon then.
It’s all very different from 2018 isn’t it? Basically no fall-out whatsoever from the qualifiers. Super positive stuff and everyone carrying on working together to build things.
It’s all very un-Zimbabwean 😂
It’s really quite remarkable the complete 360 the board have done and how suddenly decent and fairly competent they are. Did anybody at all predict any of this?
It’s all very different from 2018 isn’t it? Basically no fall-out whatsoever from the qualifiers. Super positive stuff and everyone carrying on working together to build things.
It’s all very un-Zimbabwean 😂
It’s really quite remarkable the complete 360 the board have done and how suddenly decent and fairly competent they are. Did anybody at all predict any of this?
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18 year career and only 14 Test caps. That line stood out to me. That’s a joke
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It’s like the board learnt very late in the day that corruption and yes men don’t necessarily make for results and results are where the real money is.
Ya his tests played in his long career is a shocker, multiple reasons for this as we know. Averages 41 though, very respectable. I’ve seen it on here before said that BT would be averaging 5 more than he is if he was playing in a decent team and the same can be said about Williams. Class batter.
I’d like all 3 of the big 3 to get to the next World Cup, would be a great way for them to bow out. That’s probably unrealistic, I hope at least one of them gets there though.
Ya his tests played in his long career is a shocker, multiple reasons for this as we know. Averages 41 though, very respectable. I’ve seen it on here before said that BT would be averaging 5 more than he is if he was playing in a decent team and the same can be said about Williams. Class batter.
I’d like all 3 of the big 3 to get to the next World Cup, would be a great way for them to bow out. That’s probably unrealistic, I hope at least one of them gets there though.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:52 pm
Great stuff. None of the big three retiring anytime soon then.
It’s all very different from 2018 isn’t it? Basically no fall-out whatsoever from the qualifiers. Super positive stuff and everyone carrying on working together to build things.
It’s all very un-Zimbabwean 😂
It’s really quite remarkable the complete 360 the board have done and how suddenly decent and fairly competent they are. Did anybody at all predict any of this?
I did hold my breath for a brief second when we lost that it would go tits up and we'd see tantrums and rash decisions. It seems that DH is hugely respected by all and sundry and has played a big part in keeping most people pulling in the same direction. Results are key though and if we start failing that's when the cracks will appear.
I think it's also clear to everyone that we just can't afford any more administrative or coaching crises. Even though we have some ICC goodwill we can't afford to test that boundary again.
Having said that, I'm curious what the ICC think of this T10 tournament? They have to be a bit skeptical, it's a non sanctioned event, is it not? Are these guys not somehow directly competing with ICC? Whilst we get to see some really good players and ex-internationals a fair number of them are past their prime and not front and centre and are clearly delighted to be making some decent money. But there are a few very current internationals in the mix.
This T10 format will definitely gain some traction. I think their next stop is The States. I think there it could become more popular than the T20.
At some point you'd think they will clash with ICC.
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It's great if they all stick around, a lot depends on their fitness levels. Remember Sachin played until 40, Misbah played until 41, Imran Khan lead Pakistan to a WC win at 40, So there is a lot of inspiration to take.
But I'm not looking that far as of now, before the WC 2027, we've got two T20 WCs in between 2024 and 2026. As of now the main focus of the Big 3 should be on 2024 T20 WC in the West Indies. If we can make a big statement there, like last time, then nothing like it.
In any case I'm keen on young talent coming through and more fixtures lined up. I cannot stress enough on the need to have more fixtures , that is very important in present day scenario. ZC should work out ways to play more games.
But I'm not looking that far as of now, before the WC 2027, we've got two T20 WCs in between 2024 and 2026. As of now the main focus of the Big 3 should be on 2024 T20 WC in the West Indies. If we can make a big statement there, like last time, then nothing like it.
In any case I'm keen on young talent coming through and more fixtures lined up. I cannot stress enough on the need to have more fixtures , that is very important in present day scenario. ZC should work out ways to play more games.
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He won’t be seeing any World Cup throwing himself around like that, he’s an old man now never mind then 😂
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I guess it is possible he can stick around until 41. We don't exactly have lots of guys knocking down the doors scoring runs.
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I guess maybe they all feel like they owe Houghton. He has done an incredible job and everybody can see it. Maybe this sober version of BT will come back after his ban too 😂 don't think he has ever been this fit if he is walking 50km
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Ideally I would not bank on the big 3 going on until 2027. I don't think ZC should think that way either.
If they maintain fitness and form then all well and good and I'm all for it in an ideal scenario, but the need to have more younger players involved is now... And you cannot involve more younger players if you keep playing once in 3 months. I mean that's very limited opportunity.
Look at other teams, they play all year round, so a lot of their fringe players keep getting international exposure. Sadly for ZIM, IRE and AFG this is not the case.
If they maintain fitness and form then all well and good and I'm all for it in an ideal scenario, but the need to have more younger players involved is now... And you cannot involve more younger players if you keep playing once in 3 months. I mean that's very limited opportunity.
Look at other teams, they play all year round, so a lot of their fringe players keep getting international exposure. Sadly for ZIM, IRE and AFG this is not the case.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:14 am
Ideally I would not bank on the big 3 going on until 2027. I don't think ZC should think that way either.
If they maintain fitness and form then all well and good and I'm all for it in an ideal scenario, but the need to have more younger players involved is now... And you cannot involve more younger players if you keep playing once in 3 months. I mean that's very limited opportunity.
Look at other teams, they play all year round, so a lot of their fringe players keep getting international exposure. Sadly for ZIM, IRE and AFG this is not the case.
If there is an urge from them to continue then they absolutely must continue. It’s not even questionable.
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Williams is the man, he’ll be aged 50 like Darren Stevens and still be the first name on the team sheet going on form. Criminally underrated when you got flash b*****ds like Raza and Wes in the team.
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Either pat's got his account hacked or gone on a rollercoaster across recent threads 😂 😂
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My ex wife divorced me some months ago but I still live with her while the lawyers drag out my purchase of my new house. It’s a living hell most days but today she threw a party for our neighbours’ wedding anniversary, she had a few black labels then started giving it large about how s**t I am. I had some anger to vent and getting rid of it here instead of to her in front of our kids seemed more prudent.
I stand by all my statements. Except the one about Kadza’s ton, a ton is a ton, so fair play to him. Could debate whether he should be playing NPL or not, however, playing with/against somebody like him can only benefit the youngsters if they are of a mind to learn.
Williams is practically 50 already and still at the top of his game 😂
I stand by all my statements. Except the one about Kadza’s ton, a ton is a ton, so fair play to him. Could debate whether he should be playing NPL or not, however, playing with/against somebody like him can only benefit the youngsters if they are of a mind to learn.
Williams is practically 50 already and still at the top of his game 😂
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Pat_Bee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:13 pm
My ex wife divorced me some months ago but I still live with her while the lawyers drag out my purchase of my new house. It’s a living hell most days but today she threw a party for our neighbours’ wedding anniversary, she had a few black labels then started giving it large about how s**t I am. I had some anger to vent and getting rid of it here instead of to her in front of our kids seemed more prudent.
I stand by all my statements. Except the one about Kadza’s ton, a ton is a ton, so fair play to him. Could debate whether he should be playing NPL or not, however, playing with/against somebody like him can only benefit the youngsters if they are of a mind to learn.
Williams is practically 50 already and still at the top of his game 😂
Has your ex taken up with Brendon McCullum? Is that why you don't like Bazball?
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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I’d doubt that mate.
I got her pregnant twice in a swashbuckling 30 seconds each time. The short lived nature of a Bazball innings is not for her.
I got her pregnant twice in a swashbuckling 30 seconds each time. The short lived nature of a Bazball innings is not for her.
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