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I wonder if he has recently applied for management roles at ZC? would he ever come back?
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chesterton wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:16 pm
If he applied for ZC Would they give him a position ?
That’s the real question for me.
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chesterton wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:28 pm
@Zimbos_5 read above and tell me If you are still vouching for him?
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chesterton wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:28 pm
@Zimbos_5 read above and tell me If you are still vouching for him?
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sloandog wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:19 pm
I wouldn’t take him on, he’s too moral and clean for my outfit
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:39 pm
This feels like atleast ZC are doing far better.
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Googly wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 3:47 pm
Why is that the good part? Surely people need to hear what has been alleged, then it needs to be proven. The onus is on proving guilt, not innocence.
I'm not disputing there's probably some smoke, but this smacks of people running away in terror when someone plays a race card, an LBGPQTRZ card, a transgender card or whatever other card.
I doubt that en masse they were actively discriminating against anyone, and in light of recent events I would think it was something historic. Nobody disputes thst subtle and not so subtle racism exists everywhere, hell we could write a book. 😂
How does one guy making an allegation, supported by another bring about a mass resignation? It smacks of the board agreeing they don't need to drag their names through the mud and this is a way of avoiding it- resign, appoint a board of people of Asian origin and hope there are no repercussions and avoid a long drawn out Truth and Recociliation scenario. Totally naive, in my opinion. People don't let this go, they've got trouble coming either way.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:10 pm
Well at least the team appears to be bonding well SZ, we haven't seen any instances of white players accusing of discrimination, and the players seem to be very supportive of each other, they have appointed Ervine and Williams as their captains, BT was the captain no so long ago. Dave, Streak, Klusener have been / are national coaches. So at least on that front they aren't doing that bad.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:56 pm
The scale of it sounds pretty bad tbf. Sounds worse and much wider than the Yorkshire thing.
Hard for us to contextualise it because we just don't have the same environment here where we expect standards and governance and stuff. In the UK context; not having a proper complaints process, not having board accountability, having cover-ups, not being above board on diversity etc is obviously very serious. There's so much governance oversight and different regulatory bodies and scrutiny in sport. In this case the racism itself is bad but it's even worse that it was able to happen and that the board so woefully underperformed.
It's a different world.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:04 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:10 pm
Well at least the team appears to be bonding well SZ, we haven't seen any instances of white players accusing of discrimination, and the players seem to be very supportive of each other, they have appointed Ervine and Williams as their captains, BT was the captain no so long ago. Dave, Streak, Klusener have been / are national coaches. So at least on that front they aren't doing that bad.
The window-dressing is working!
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:51 pm
secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:04 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:10 pm
Well at least the team appears to be bonding well SZ, we haven't seen any instances of white players accusing of discrimination, and the players seem to be very supportive of each other, they have appointed Ervine and Williams as their captains, BT was the captain no so long ago. Dave, Streak, Klusener have been / are national coaches. So at least on that front they aren't doing that bad.
The window-dressing is working!
:D I thought you'd say that! Obviously we are non locals so we would not understand the reality there, much like you wouldn't understand the problems here.
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