1st T20I Vs Afghanistan, 11th June

Donald wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:33 pm

No point picking these spinners when we have burl raza shumba and madhevere. Unless we have another cremer.

Cremer would never have been able to take 3-14 against a side like Afghanistan. Burl is probably on par with Cremer in terms of spin bowling.

Lol are you joking?!?! Cremer was literally TWICE the spinner Burl is wtf.

Burl had a great day today though, pleased for him

Either play Wellington or else the all rounders are more than sufficient to play spinners role. If Willo comes back then he gives another option. Don't need to play Ndlovu or Mavuta at all.

Kasuza could easily have played as an opener and be given free license to hit in place of Ndlovu who was not utilised in any capacity at all... Even if Kasuza fails it doesn't matter. He can play a role very similar to what Zhuwao played at the WCQ in 2018, if not against strong attacks, at least against lesser attacks they will come off for sure and as of now winning consistently against these associate teams matters a lot for Zimbabwe.

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:56 pm

Donald wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:33 pm

No point picking these spinners when we have burl raza shumba and madhevere. Unless we have another cremer.

Cremer would never have been able to take 3-14 against a side like Afghanistan. Burl is probably on par with Cremer in terms of spin bowling.

I reckon you’re here just to troll now.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:09 pm

Lol are you joking?!?! Cremer was literally TWICE the spinner Burl is wtf.

Burl had a great day today though, pleased for him

Not joking at all. Check Cremer's averages against countries like Canada/Kenya/Bermuda and compare it to the averages against India/Australia/Pakistan.

It's sad that someone who contributed a lot to the forum many years ago and is clearly capable of being a decent poster when he actually wants to be, has resorted to such obvious blatant trolling. It's not even good trolling. 😂

Ryan Burl a better bowler than Graeme Cremer 😂 😂 😂 hahahahah

Next you'll be telling us that Roy Kaia is a better quality test batter than Sean Williams.

I wouldn't call it trolling per se. Hyper critical, yes.

At any rate let me retract my statement.

I definitely never intended to say Burl is better than Cremer.

Burl is definitely capable with the ball, but he just lacks consistency. He was fantastic today, but a lot of the time he plays like the local village pie chucker.

Let's hope he puts in more performances like today going forward

Also they need to bat him up the order. He's a batter first and foremost, and a good one at that.

I think Cremer was a grittier batter. Certainly upped.his game in that regard towards the end of his career.

Burl certainly can belt it though on his day.

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:32 pm

I wouldn't call it trolling per se. Hyper critical, yes.

At any rate let me retract my statement.

I definitely never intended to say Burl is better than Cremer.

Deliberately writing something down is a bit different from blurting something out 😂

At least stick to your guns, you've just exposed a fine yellow streak there 😂

I've long believed that Burl could actually be much more than a part timer. The problem is it takes hours of practice, something that none of our players are prepared to put in.

That stems from a toxic and negative environment and from admin continually meddling in cricket affairs, something which they know nothing about.

I think some of our problem is actually the senior players. I'm not sure they're a cohesive unit amongst themselves and they're not personally doing well enough and you have to earn the right to be called a senior player. Ten years of being a mediocre national player should not a senior player make.

We haven't seen Masakadza for a while, but these guys need to stop picking guys as "specialist" spinners who clearly don't make the grade internationally, it's embarrassing having your "part timers" bowl better line and lengths than the specialist.

Raza bowled an interesting line yesterday. Leg stump and the batters were playing him with a straight bat for singles instead of sweeping him. He kept them quiet. I think they'll have a different approach today.

Not likely to defend 8 off the last over, but Jongwe would have been my pick to bowl it. You have to have slower balls in your arsenal in this format, something Blessing needs to work on.

Chatara bowled some beautiful yorkers and with late swing at the back end of the game, dunno where that late swing came from.

I've never understood why guys save yorkers for the back end of a game, if you can bowl them then get going with them in the powerplay. We don't seem to have a quick that can bowl wide yorkers, Jongwe maybe.