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2nd T20I vs Afghanistan, 12th June

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Tiripano and Marumani are in for Blessing and Shumba.
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I'd probably like to try a line-up like this

Marumani and Ervine opening. Give Marumani instructions to just go big from ball 1, hopefully he will last most of the power play and this gives Ervine a couple of overs to settle without pressure.

I'd like to see Burl maybe at three, see how that goes.

4 and 5 I'd have any two of Williams/Madhevere/Myers/Shumba as the classier players who in theory should hopefully be able to adapt to whatever the situation is.

Raza at 6 as the finisher (but his position being fluid depending on the situation)

And then probably the keeper at 7.
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I'd like to see Kaia continue in ODIs and he has potential there for sure (and dare I say even in Tests), but I don't think this is his format.
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I'll go with the following team for Qualifiers provided everyone is fit.

Kasuza

Marumani

Ervine

Williams

Raza

Shumba

Chakabva

Burl

Evans

Ngarava

Muzarabani

Reserves:

Wellington

Jongwe

Chatara

Kaia

The reason to go with Evans ahead of Chatara is his ability to bat and strike a few, otherwise I'm ok with Chatara in the XI.

Wellington is good but i would want batting depth and 3 fast bowlers, so he has to miss out.

Kasuza and Marumani must open, that is the only way you're going to put some pressure on these associate teams. You don't want Kaia or Ervine to be like 35/1 after 6 against USA and looking at trouble. No way

By the way Zimbabwe have USA in their group so they play USA in a less pressure game, not in KO, so basically we are looking at Zimbabwe, USA and Netherlands, PNG.

If Zim finish first by beating USA and I'm sure the Dutch will finish first in other group with PNG coming 2nd, we are looking at beating PNG for a place in the world Cup. Singapore will be without Tim David for sure and hence not a threat.

If somehow Zimbabwe lose to USA, then it is the more difficult task of beating the Dutch in semi finals.

So all in all, Qualifying is very easy, Unless you mess up really really really BIG time. It can't be easier than this.
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Then where do u put Kaia? He will be part of the plans I'm sure.

Who goes when/if Williams returns?

With Shumba not bowling should he be in the side? How do you have a guy in as a batsman way down the order that doesn't bowl?

Myers has potential with bat and ball, for me more so than Milton, but the game is played in the middle, doesn't matter what you look like, its runs on the board that counts.

That Afghan batsman that flat bats everything is offensive but effective 😂

How long do they persevere with Reggie? Loss of form is one thing, but this is not looking good.
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Marumani

Ervine

Burl

Williams / Myers

Madhevere / Shumba

Raza

Chakabva

Evans / Jongwe

Masakadza

Muzarabani

Ngarava / Chatara

That would be my 15 man squad for the qualifiers at this point.
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Kasuza may be an option in these qualifiers. Although he can smash it the talk is he will struggle against real quality bowlers. I haven't seen enuf of him to comment.

I just don't think Evans is on their radar at the moment.

If he got an extended go, like pretty much everyone else has had, I think he'd be good, but we are not likely to see that.

Masakadza is our most reliable spinner. I think he has to be in the line up, but only just. If Raza and Burl bowl OK and Madhevere can bowl, with two out and out seamers and an all-rounder that's 6 bowlers. A pure spinner has to justify his spot with some seriously tight bowling.
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Ya Reggie's form is a massive problem.

But what is the alternative?

Young Madande is promising but I'd say Reggie is much better with the gloves, he's in the form of his life behind the sticks actually - far better than he used to be, whereas Madande only took up serious keeping a couple of years ago I believe? You also Regis' leadership and experience - it's noticeable that in most matches he ends up setting the fields and being the main motivator. Probably quite useful when you have a naturally quiet captain like Craig.

The other alternative is Mutumbami and I really don't want to go back there.

Depth depth depth!!!! :x
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Googly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:29 am

Then where do u put Kaia? He will be part of the plans I'm sure.

Who goes when/if Williams returns?

With Shumba not bowling should he be in the side? How do you have a guy in as a batsman way down the order that doesn't bowl?

Myers has potential with bat and ball, for me more so than Milton, but the game is played in the middle, doesn't matter what you look like, its runs on the board that counts.

That Afghan batsman that flat bats everything is offensive but effective 😂

How long do they persevere with Reggie? Loss of form is one thing, but this is not looking good.


No. I won't have Kaia in my team. He is not needed when you have two accumulators in Williams and Ervine and both are better than Kaia. Don't need three such players.

Myers is not even in my squad, you cannot be out of the game for an year and then expect to be in the team. Not at all.

I'll have Shumba, he has shown immense promise in the past, more so than Wes, Myers and Burl so i won't let recency bias impact his position.
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Good points
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:20 am

I'd probably like to try a line-up like this

Marumani and Ervine opening. Give Marumani instructions to just go big from ball 1, hopefully he will last most of the power play and this gives Ervine a couple of overs to settle without pressure.

I'd like to see Burl maybe at three, see how that goes.

4 and 5 I'd have any two of Williams/Madhevere/Myers/Shumba as the classier players who in theory should hopefully be able to adapt to whatever the situation is.

Raza at 6 as the finisher (but his position being fluid depending on the situation)

And then probably the keeper at 7.


Marumani doesn't need to be told to go big from ball 1.

I think he needs to be told to be a bit more selective actually. He's got a fantastic eye, and if anything is too aggressive.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:47 am


Googly wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:29 am

Then where do u put Kaia? He will be part of the plans I'm sure.

Who goes when/if Williams returns?

With Shumba not bowling should he be in the side? How do you have a guy in as a batsman way down the order that doesn't bowl?

Myers has potential with bat and ball, for me more so than Milton, but the game is played in the middle, doesn't matter what you look like, its runs on the board that counts.

That Afghan batsman that flat bats everything is offensive but effective 😂

How long do they persevere with Reggie? Loss of form is one thing, but this is not looking good.


No. I won't have Kaia in my team. He is not needed when you have two accumulators in Williams and Ervine and both are better than Kaia. Don't need three such players.

Myers is not even in my squad, you cannot be out of the game for an year and then expect to be in the team. Not at all.

I'll have Shumba, he has shown immense promise in the past, more so than Wes, Myers and Burl so i won't let recency bias impact his position.


I was thinking that if Zimbabwe didnt keep Myers in the squad, he might be disillusioned and leave cricket altogether depriving Zimbabwe of that sough-after depth. Of course any other country and something like this would never happen but given the rather precarious nature of Zimbabwe cricket....
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Well he's at uni. Goes back in September anyway. Basically he's on English summer break. He's already played for Zim so he's locked in for 3 years and doesn't have another passport that I'm aware of.

Pretty sure he's committed anyway, just wants a degree which is a fair call.
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Chakabva's leadership is crucial at the moment. He sets the fields and yesterday you could even hear him telling Ainsley where to bowl and the batsman's favourite hitting areas. There just isn't an alternative for him and this is why I was saying Dane Schadendorf has to be on their priority list.
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I think they should seriously try Burl up the order to see what happens. I'm not too sure about Kasuza but he is a man in form just like Kaia. It could work.

Kaia was struggling so badly but still got to 50. That shows that there is something to work with there. I think he could be handy in ODIs. Klusener has to work on both Kaia and Kaitano for the Australia tour I think. If Williams doesn't come back we will need to maybe push Ervine to 4 and Regis at 3. I don't think there will be much spin there so Kaitano could do ok.
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Getting a run a ball 50 posting, is one thing, but chasing is a different matter. Had he changed gear it would still have been marginal and he'd have had to have done that by ball 30.

It's a tough one. People look at 50 as good, but a run a ball 50 chasing 170 loses you the game. I've seen it a couple of times in the T20 blast and the county twitter feed bigs up the 50 but there's no context to it.

It's not too dissimilar to a seamer getting expensive wickets. You get 3 for 50 in your 4 overs and you've probably cost your team the game.

The keepers are usually responsible for the angles of the fielders more than actually setting the field
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:27 am

I think they should seriously try Burl up the order to see what happens. I'm not too sure about Kasuza but he is a man in form just like Kaia. It could work.

Kaia was struggling so badly but still got to 50. That shows that there is something to work with there. I think he could be handy in ODIs. Klusener has to work on both Kaia and Kaitano for the Australia tour I think. If Williams doesn't come back we will need to maybe push Ervine to 4 and Regis at 3. I don't think there will be much spin there so Kaitano could do ok.


Taps I don't know why you've automatically penned Chakabva in at 3. Seems to be a trend with everyone. The guy has to make runs or make way.
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I'd definitely bat Chakabva up the order in Tests btw (Although whether we will play another one before he and others retire is anyones guess) as his career red ball record fully deserves it - he's too good to be at 7 or 8 in that format. But the experiment up the order in T20's at least clearly hasn't worked for him.

There'd be an argument for batting him at 7 or 8 in white ball and giving him the captaincy.
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Evans played in boozers league instead of the Vigne Cup this weekend btw. Sure fire way to annoy the selectors.
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Eeish that's not good.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:22 am

Evans played in boozers league instead of the Vigne Cup this weekend btw. Sure fire way to annoy the selectors.


Any clarity on why he wasn't picked?

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