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August 22, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/CricZim/posts/582591105156838


I'm going to say something potentially controversial but I feel it is a question worth asking and discussing: Please note-no racist or abusive contributions will be tolerated.

With Ballance, Craig Ervine, Sean Ervine and now Kyle Jarvis amongst a host many other talented white Zimbabwean cricketers who have played for the country at various levels (be it U17, U19 or Internationally) continuing the trend of using Cricket in Zimbabwe as a stepping stone to play for other countries such as Ireland and England (Not forgetting New Zealand), should ZC continue to invest in white cricketers? In terms of international playing time or even development (I know Jarvis spent many hours with Heath Streak for him to get to this level), if they are just going to up and leave the Zimbabwe Cricket to play for a country their ancestors called home e.g. the case of Ervine and Ireland, rather than showing Zimbabwe loyalty? Is it not wiser for us to follow a model of empowering black cricketers, making more cricket hubs like Chipembere Primary School in places with a high population of black people, to produce players like Prosper Utseya and Elton Chigumbura who are talented and won't leave us to go play for another country or make statements about it being a dream for them to play for another international team?

We sometimes see these players playing half heartedly and chalk it down to them not getting paid enough (which is a real factor-sometimes they don't even get paid at all; that's the reality of Zimbabwe across the board, not just cricket), but maybe there's more to it-maybe it's that their hearts are somewhere else-maybe they're dreaming of making their test début for Ireland or England rather than focusing on the ball crashing into their stumps.

We must not forget ZC and Zimbabwe are greatly flawed-maybe these guys just want job security and to make some money to support themselves and their families, but do they need to play for another country to do this?

Perhaps I've asked this question out of bitterness and anger at this continuing betrayal, but it's been a reality of our game; when the likes of Chingoka took over ZC, they set about introducing it to the black majority (They messed many things up along the way and didn't even do that properly) and now we have players like the Masakadza brothers, Vusi Sibanda etc. I can't help but think that we've wasted plenty of games playing Jarvis instead of Shingi Masakadza, who would have improved at a greater rate with all this experience and who will continue to serve us for the best years of his career and after.

However it is not a black and white issue; we have wonderful and truly patriotic players like captain Taylor in the team-a player who has stuck with ZC through the thinnest times possible! And a guy like Taibu who went to play for Namibia for a time. So don't misunderstand this post as a racist post, no, it is simply asking a question; Are we doing the smart thing by giving players who are more likely to leave us a chance over those who are more likely to stay? Should we invest as much in them?

We can even go speak about grassroots; Cricket is mostly available to the rich-many Government and mission schools cannot afford to put up creases, buy equipment and play in tournaments-we are missing out on a wealth of talented young Zimbabwean boys and girls who could be the next Zimbabwe captain or ICC ranked number 1 batsman.


NB: The bold-italicised part is essentially the intended title of this thread, but I don't know who wrote this, or who this account belongs to. It seems like Zimbabwe Cricket. SOunds similar to what this fellow wrote sometime ago http://zimcricketforums.com/viewtopic.p ... ilit=chaos
This post does open a can of worms so to say, a lot of talent hs bn lost much to the dismay of us supporters of th game. To think tht this is not only happening in cricket bt across ol sectors of the country makes it even bitter to swallow. Graduates are graduating n moving oversees aftr using Zim resources,which I find to be normal considering the harsh situation in the country. Then u hev a case of th exciting young white cricket talent turning their back on Zim Crickt,heartbreaking it is. But the bigger picture if one is to be objective we find both stakeholders at fault here. ZC I feel hasnt done enough to prove tht anyone who is good in the sport has a future in the country. I understand that we may not hev enough cash like other powerhouses but simple policies on merit and transparency do go a long way in this regard. Rytnow there is a case in point(tho still rumours) of prosper being tipped to take the bowling coach for th under 19,what criteria is being used,i jst dont know bcz for me personally I feel there is nothing young bubbling cricketers are going to learn frm someone who is even struggling with his own bowling,on top of tht someone who seems to have vendetta over another group. It just puzzles me to say the least. I would appreciate if we could have untainted pple at th helm of our teams.

Whites on the other hand have a lot of connections abroad n some would also claim that they hev been at the recieving end of th adminstrators so have broadened their horizon. Both ways its still a loss to Zim cricket n I think some of these issues need a holistic approach starting frm the governmnt itself,the statements we utter torwads each,some of them are too crude. If we cud agree to let bygones be bygones and say we want to build a strong Zim irespective of race but merit only im sure most people would welcum tht. The truth being said US Zimbas we thrive on selfishness both black n white. This I beliv is our major downfall, we pretent to be accomodative yet underneath there we are snakes. Myself im black n I hold no grudge aganst anyone,all I love to see is Zimbabwe where pple are not judged by colour or race but by what they bring table. Something happened n no matter how much we query or fight over them,we cant change them,lets embrace the diversity we have and appreciate each others abilitities and do away with racial prejudice. I hold the opinion tht most white people who hev remained despite all tht they have endured are patriotic to the cause of this beautiful land. To my fellow black brothers playing the game please up your game you have been given ample time to prove your worth,so lets do away with excuses,n just deliver on the sporting front.

We all can make this team and country a good one for every one,ZC please tek the lead. Misteks were made but lets look forwad into the future n not camp in the past,for there is a lot of misery in th past.
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Cricket Zimbabwe is just a fansite so I guess whoever the admin is wrote it. Do you participate in the fb groups such as this one, Zimbabwe Cricket News bavuma_rabada? Your name gets mentioned every now and then.
My All-time Zimbabwe XI
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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Thats the wrong question really.

They would all stay if ZC had their act together.
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Hahah typical bone head thinking instead of thinking why are these guys leaving let's just stop picking white guys ......

I'm certain the majority of people involved in ZC have no actual cricket knowledge and probably don't even care about cricket it's all just a race power struggle, they'd be more happy with a all black team that loses than a white team that wins ......
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jaybro wrote:Hahah typical bone head thinking instead of thinking why are these guys leaving let's just stop picking white guys ......

I'm certain the majority of people involved in ZC have no actual cricket knowledge and probably don't even care about cricket it's all just a race power struggle, they'd be more happy with a all black team that loses than a white team that wins ......


They don't even care about race most likely. Just want to line their pockets.
My All-time Zimbabwe XI
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani

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