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Logan Cup Round 4 (Tuskers v Eagles & Mountaineers v Rhinos)

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The real crime is that these boys/men dedicate years to making themselves good players and if they even play one game for Zim they’re captured and are now pawns.

That message has been received loud and clear by white players initially but a few black guys have fallen victim as well. Honestly where’s the incentive for any player to spend hours a week in the nets if they’re going to be mistreated and discarded? On the one hand Zim is the easiest side to make as an above average player, but there are so few games, and there’s no guarantee of payment or of ZC honouring any contractual obligations.

People in general are treated so badly here that we all suffer from Stockholm syndrome to some degree. We get tossed a bone and we fall on it with pitiful gratitude and hope that this is the start of good things to come, and it never is. Young guys like Madhevere and Muyeye will never commit to a career here. It’s a mess.
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Andybligzz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:36 am


sloandog wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:23 am

Burl has hardly played any cricket in 9 months.

What's going on? He's played 3 list A games from May 18' and a couple of T20's against the aussies.


Get ready to say goodbye to him , to good of a player not to be playing . Wouldn’t be surprised if he moves away from zim for good .


It's bullshit mate. In a land no longer blessed with natural batting talent we've let slip an exciting left hander. This guy can seriously play and he's being treated like s**t; he's getting the Diplock treatment.
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For me, Burl needs to open the batting for ZIm in both Test and ODI's.
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SpitfiresKent wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:58 am

For me, Burl needs to open the batting for ZIm in both Test and ODI's.


Needs a FC side before he can do that, mate
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Does anybody know what the real issue is concerning Burl? What is going on? I just hope they are not make his life difficult because of the strike last year.

I feared there would be backlash 1 day. Especially after Williams said he was put on 3 months notice or something like that. Im sure he wasnt the only person they were trying to screw over. So sad. August needs to come sooner rather than later and there needs to be a plan to challenge the guys in charge.

Im in the dark over his exact issue.
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TapsC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:21 pm

Does anybody know what the real issue is concerning Burl? What is going on? I just hope they are not make his life difficult because of the strike last year.

I feared there would be backlash 1 day. Especially after Williams said he was put on 3 months notice or something like that. Im sure he wasnt the only person they were trying to screw over. So sad. August needs to come sooner rather than later and there needs to be a plan to challenge the guys in charge.

Im in the dark over his exact issue.


Burl was set to play for the Tuskers but Vinny Moyo vetoed the selection. No reason which has left Burl miffed. He is still very much avaliable.
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I keep hearing about "August"...whats going on in August? Are we talking about August 2019???

For all anyone knows it might even be some person like August Chibabha, a new sports minister.
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For all anyone knows it might even be some person like August Chibabha, a new sports minister.


I found this far too amusing
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TapsC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:21 pm

Does anybody know what the real issue is concerning Burl? What is going on? I just hope they are not make his life difficult because of the strike last year.


Did Burl go on strike??

He played the first few t20's against Australia & Pakistan
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm

I keep hearing about "August"...whats going on in August? Are we talking about August 2019???

For all anyone knows it might even be some person like August Chibabha, a new sports minister.


Board elections
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:43 pm


jward wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:53 pm


CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:12 am

Wow! How will he get any game time now?

And where is Hamilton Masakadza? Hasn't turned out at all this season so far?


Hammy picked up an ankle injury in Bangladesh and I am told he is still struggling quite badly with it.


Thanks for the update John, do you know if Hamilton needs surgery??

Also do you know anything about Burl's situation ??


I don't think Hamilton actually needs surgery; I'll try to find out about Burl when I can.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:09 pm

Board elections


In that case can't see why anyone is holding their breath. It will be more of the same old same old.

ZC are already missing out on WC revenue, but thats probably only 3-4 million USD - over a 4 year span. The main money comes from ICC full membership, and thats probably around 50 million USD over a 4 year cycle. That is safe regardless of WC qualification or not, and that is why the thieves still profit from ZC. Also inbound tours from India and Australia are probably the only series that bring net profits for ZC.

The only solution is if the ICC were to completely suspend ZC. No more money, and no more tours from India/Australia. The thieves would clear the building within 10 minutes if that were to happen.

In the absence of that, we will continue to see player strikes every 6-12 months, domestic fixtures being cancelled, player defections to other countries, etc.

Thats assuming, ZIM political situation doesn't collapse into either a civil war or complete economic crash.
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jward wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:49 pm

I don't think Hamilton actually needs surgery; I'll try to find out about Burl when I can.


Thanks John
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:33 pm

In that case can't see why anyone is holding their breath. It will be more of the same old same old.

ZC are already missing out on WC revenue, but thats probably only 3-4 million USD - over a 4 year span. The main money comes from ICC full membership, and thats probably around 50 million USD over a 4 year cycle. That is safe regardless of WC qualification or not, and that is why the thieves still profit from ZC. Also inbound tours from India and Australia are probably the only series that bring net profits for ZC.

The only solution is if the ICC were to completely suspend ZC. No more money, and no more tours from India/Australia. The thieves would clear the building within 10 minutes if that were to happen.

In the absence of that, we will continue to see player strikes every 6-12 months, domestic fixtures being cancelled, player defections to other countries, etc.

Thats assuming, ZIM political situation doesn't collapse into either a civil war or complete economic crash.


The ICC seems to be happy enough with the board and their plan to get the debt sorted, hard to believe a change of board will actually be a good thing at this point
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Credit to Brian Chari with 50’s in both innings on what were terrible batting conditions
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jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:48 am

Credit to Brian Chari with 50’s in both innings on what were terrible batting conditions


He has been a positive of late , hopefully he can grow as a player and be the gritty opener who bats time we so

Badly need .
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Andybligzz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:07 am


jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:48 am

Credit to Brian Chari with 50’s in both innings on what were terrible batting conditions


He has been a positive of late , hopefully he can grow as a player and be the gritty opener who bats time we so

Badly need .


Sadly for a Zimbabwean Test specialist there aren’t many opportunities ☹️
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Wow! Mate ... So good to see this.
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Murray playing again for the Tuskers, Chari needs to dominate this Logan Cup to help build on the confidence he must have gained from his performance in the 2nd test against Bangladesh. No idea where Ryan Burl is :?

Good to see Maruma playing FC again, didn't play in the 2017/2018 season. 30 years old now and perhaps still has something to offer? (Saying that as a 30 year old myself 😂 )

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