Seriuosly TapsC
You going to take the rights to the word "entitlement" as well and go cry in the corner :roll: :roll:
I guess what you are not comprehending is two things
1)older people may remember the pre-independence days and if your resolution to that is to kick the next white children in their face for what their grandfathers may or may not have done then you are just as bad or even worse then the same pre-independence whites/ndebeles.
2)Many of us have only known a zimbabwe where as a minority we are dealing with racism on a daily occurrence and the black entitlement movement
these are simply facts- but you wouldn't know because it doesn't affect you, you're black. When mugabe told the whites to go back to europe did you even blink or raise your voice in opposition to blatant state sponsored racism? Or did you just snigger s**ts and giggles 😂
As for the subject i can only congratulate Afghanistan on clambering over Zimbabwe by repeatedly thumping us and getting higher up the ladder and respectability. You of course have to wonder how much ZC board got to OK the games.
The Afghans have played their hearts out to the point of exhaustion, they clearly have struggled being homeless and underpaid for ages but despite all the challenges stuffed us in the face and deserve their position.
To step up to the top 4in the world they need to repeat what they did to us with SA.
They'll always have my support :W:
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UAE & Afghanistan tour of Zimbabwe 2019 : Pre Series Discussion
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There are not enough "non-black" cricketers left in the country for you to "give it back" to them. You cant even put together a white playing 11 in the system right now. Also as much as I dont like the board the truth is we cant blame them for not making the world cup. We all saw that game. We all saw what happened.
My point is that its not a coincidence that rumours of their players not wanting to play us pop up then a few weeks later they want to cancel. You know Bangladesh also rose up the ranks but in my opinion they have treated us fairly and with respect. If you think Afghanistan has done the same then I dont know.
As I said there is a full schedule with 15 ODIs that mean something next year. There is no need to beg anybody. We can complain but the average test playing nation plays between 20-25 ODIs in a year. Its not as many as people think. We will probably play 30 games this year but mainly t20s I think with the qualifier in October.Its not the end of the world if Afghanistan doesnt want to come.
This is a battle for survival. You keep helping countries rise up and then they treat you like dirt after they will eventually kick us out.
Also an A tour is a lot cheaper than a national tour. From accomodation to allowances to TV production costs.
My point is that its not a coincidence that rumours of their players not wanting to play us pop up then a few weeks later they want to cancel. You know Bangladesh also rose up the ranks but in my opinion they have treated us fairly and with respect. If you think Afghanistan has done the same then I dont know.
As I said there is a full schedule with 15 ODIs that mean something next year. There is no need to beg anybody. We can complain but the average test playing nation plays between 20-25 ODIs in a year. Its not as many as people think. We will probably play 30 games this year but mainly t20s I think with the qualifier in October.Its not the end of the world if Afghanistan doesnt want to come.
This is a battle for survival. You keep helping countries rise up and then they treat you like dirt after they will eventually kick us out.
Also an A tour is a lot cheaper than a national tour. From accomodation to allowances to TV production costs.
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TapsC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:27 am
There are not enough "non-black" cricketers left in the country for you to "give it back" to them. You cant even put together a white playing 11 in the system right now. Also as much as I dont like the board the truth is we cant blame them for not making the world cup. We all saw that game. We all saw what happened.
My point is that its not a coincidence that rumours of their players not wanting to play us pop up then a few weeks later they want to cancel. You know Bangladesh also rose up the ranks but in my opinion they have treated us fairly and with respect. If you think Afghanistan has done the same then I dont know.
As I said there is a full schedule with 15 ODIs that mean something next year. There is no need to beg anybody. We can complain but the average test playing nation plays between 20-25 ODIs in a year. Its not as many as people think. We will probably play 30 games this year but mainly t20s I think with the qualifier in October.Its not the end of the world if Afghanistan doesnt want to come.
This is a battle for survival. You keep helping countries rise up and then they treat you like dirt after they will eventually kick us out.
Also an A tour is a lot cheaper than a national tour. From accomodation to allowances to TV production costs.
I know for a fact that there are enough non-black cricketers to make a team. A lot of the school teams have plenty of non-black players in them. They just don't progress because there is no pathway or future from it.
I agree with you on Afghanistan. I find them arrogant and do not like them at all. They have been disrespectful and the lot, but we can't keep pointing the finger at everyone else. What does it say when teams would rather play Scotland and Ireland than Zim.
It's like the sanctions excuse. They blame sanctions for the problems of the country, but in actual fact, the problems are caused by ourselves. If we got our house in order and did it properly, then we wouldn't have to be having these discussions because we would then be regularly playing the big teams and Afghanistan would be an after thought.
Unfortunately we have kicked ourselves out. The game has been run poorly and terribly that we 1) are not good enough an opposition for teams to want to play us. 2) we can't afford to host teams 3) we can't afford to travel 4) we've become so poor that sponsors want nothing to do with us
We don't blame the board directly for not qualifying for the WC, but we do blame them for the other 99% of things.
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Looks like Afghanistan backed out because ZC couldn't afford to broadcast the series on TV.
Initially I thought it was the arrogance of ACB, but now I can't really blame them, in present day to say they can't broadcast an international series is quite embarrassing really.
Initially I thought it was the arrogance of ACB, but now I can't really blame them, in present day to say they can't broadcast an international series is quite embarrassing really.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:32 am
Looks like Afghanistan backed out because ZC couldn't afford to broadcast the series on TV.
Initially I thought it was the arrogance of ACB, but now I can't really blame them, in present day to say they can't broadcast an international series is quite embarrassing really.
Yeah, the Afghans have a large fanbase and expect that a series against an existing full member be televised. Especially since they are sharing costs. The side benefit might be the Afghans might feel Ireland and Scotland will give them better practice especially in UK conditions.
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