1)ICC should say whether they have lent the money or NOT to ZC- by them keeping quiet they are fing with everyones livlihood.
2)ZC should provide written proof that money is in from ICC-no one else will bail these crooks out
Otherwise the 20/20 tournament is off and all non-hararians drove back today- if it is to be rescheduled then it won't be before the WCup
Meanwhile we are all being treated like kindergarten monkeys- whilst the board live the high life and blame shadowy racism, sanctions and goblins.
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Choppa posted on this article on cricinfo and not surprisingly the outcast tried to blame him for the financial ruin ZC is in .....
Good to see Choppa cares enough to post his frustrations still ......
Posted by ZCFOutkast on (February 10, 2014, 14:56 GMT)
@Choppa, you can only put players ahead when you have money. ZC doesn't have money. Zero! Plus no revenue stream. If you understood economics&sports management then that realisation wouldn't have been beyond you boet! How on earth do you think you were being paid all this time before you came to you suddenly cam eto your decision to bail out? Wasn't it financed through debt? If Aus&Eng had toured ZIM as often as they should have, don't you think ZC would've paid off the debt by now?
If anything, ZC should be applauded for keeping the game alive for this long. When all you players have retired and been paid up out of debt, it will be the new generation who are struggling because ZC are and will be struggling. At least some of you have had your joys at recording multiple ducks&wicketless bowling innings throughout the world in mostly underwhelming&embarassing returns despite multiple chances. What of Jongwe, Chisoko, Kasuza, Chari etc?
Posted by Charles Choppa Coventry on (February 10, 2014, 14:32 GMT)
I hope this can all come to an end soon and start seeing our boys play again. This is probably the most frustrating things for players as just like anyone else on earthwe are trying to make an hhonest living . Unfortunately it will come a time and very soon where players will have to move on as I have done. Sad times. Come on zc start waking up. We all wanna play and do well and do zim proud. For once put players first and start treating them like u should. U r only as strong as your weakest link. And this time its not the players.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe/co ... 17839.html
Good to see Choppa cares enough to post his frustrations still ......
Posted by ZCFOutkast on (February 10, 2014, 14:56 GMT)
@Choppa, you can only put players ahead when you have money. ZC doesn't have money. Zero! Plus no revenue stream. If you understood economics&sports management then that realisation wouldn't have been beyond you boet! How on earth do you think you were being paid all this time before you came to you suddenly cam eto your decision to bail out? Wasn't it financed through debt? If Aus&Eng had toured ZIM as often as they should have, don't you think ZC would've paid off the debt by now?
If anything, ZC should be applauded for keeping the game alive for this long. When all you players have retired and been paid up out of debt, it will be the new generation who are struggling because ZC are and will be struggling. At least some of you have had your joys at recording multiple ducks&wicketless bowling innings throughout the world in mostly underwhelming&embarassing returns despite multiple chances. What of Jongwe, Chisoko, Kasuza, Chari etc?
Posted by Charles Choppa Coventry on (February 10, 2014, 14:32 GMT)
I hope this can all come to an end soon and start seeing our boys play again. This is probably the most frustrating things for players as just like anyone else on earthwe are trying to make an hhonest living . Unfortunately it will come a time and very soon where players will have to move on as I have done. Sad times. Come on zc start waking up. We all wanna play and do well and do zim proud. For once put players first and start treating them like u should. U r only as strong as your weakest link. And this time its not the players.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe/co ... 17839.html
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Hopefully choppa replies.
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ZCFOutkast forgets that players sign a contract expecting to be paid what has been negotiated and agreed. If a big side does not tour it is not the fault of the players but of the Board and it's policies. How then is a player expected to support himself and his family other than trying to find gainful employment elsewhere?
The only way to to play for Zim is to be young and single and comfortable with living below the poverty datum line, or alternatively have parents that can support you throughout your "professional" career. The days of the amateur player doing well in international cricket are long gone. For players to be emphatically told that they will be paid by a given date and then be let down again is unacceptable and the last straw. How many times must this happen? Continual lies appear to not be a source of embarrassment to these guys. ZC is banking on the players caving in as the WC is around the corner, their core 5 or 6 senior guys have so far failed to convince the others. Non attendance of the WC will probably spell the end and ZC is relying on this. I'm sure enough players will roll over in the following two weeks, they probably should but it will ensure that the Board remains in place.
Sadly for us all, Outkast will remain in situ and continue to froth.
The only way to to play for Zim is to be young and single and comfortable with living below the poverty datum line, or alternatively have parents that can support you throughout your "professional" career. The days of the amateur player doing well in international cricket are long gone. For players to be emphatically told that they will be paid by a given date and then be let down again is unacceptable and the last straw. How many times must this happen? Continual lies appear to not be a source of embarrassment to these guys. ZC is banking on the players caving in as the WC is around the corner, their core 5 or 6 senior guys have so far failed to convince the others. Non attendance of the WC will probably spell the end and ZC is relying on this. I'm sure enough players will roll over in the following two weeks, they probably should but it will ensure that the Board remains in place.
Sadly for us all, Outkast will remain in situ and continue to froth.
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ZCFOutcast's diatribe reminds me of ZC employee Trevor. ZCFOutkast also doesn't mention that although UK/OZ didn't tour- they still paid ZC $5m for not touring!
It has to end, ZC must be put down- it is an embarrassment to our country, we are the laughing stock of the world already.
Yesterday all the players were there, all the coaches were there, one CEO was there(i guess the others knew not to bother travelling!) All the umpires,security and support staff were there.
W(where)TF were the board??? Where was Chingoka, his side kick vice chair??? Not to be seen.
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I heard as a unit(union) we must send a winding up of the legal corporate called ZC telling them they have 14days to pay or they will be legally dissolved and all assets stripped and money used to pay the people who wound them up FIRST(not NSSA,Tax then the banks--but the players paid first) Further more there is clear cases of fraud by the main individuals which means we can strip their personal assets too, houses, cars, salary etc.
My advice, be the first to send a winding up petition or lose out. Why the players rep Eli has not tabled this-is a concern.
It has to end, ZC must be put down- it is an embarrassment to our country, we are the laughing stock of the world already.
Yesterday all the players were there, all the coaches were there, one CEO was there(i guess the others knew not to bother travelling!) All the umpires,security and support staff were there.
W(where)TF were the board??? Where was Chingoka, his side kick vice chair??? Not to be seen.
Players read this:::
I heard as a unit(union) we must send a winding up of the legal corporate called ZC telling them they have 14days to pay or they will be legally dissolved and all assets stripped and money used to pay the people who wound them up FIRST(not NSSA,Tax then the banks--but the players paid first) Further more there is clear cases of fraud by the main individuals which means we can strip their personal assets too, houses, cars, salary etc.
My advice, be the first to send a winding up petition or lose out. Why the players rep Eli has not tabled this-is a concern.
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They have the wrong guy representing them. Plus the players attending these meetings have not truthfully told the rest of them what actually transpired at these closed door meetings, which indicates that they have been "turned." There's not one hard liner amongst them.
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I agree- the senior players body language screamed defensive and shame. I think the rebels this time will be the ones going to the WCup, not boycotting :(
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Welcome jimmylesaint. Nice to have you on the forum. The players need to stick with this strike, if they return to playing without being paid all of this will have been for nothing.
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