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I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.

Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.

Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.

You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.

I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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Yet in the domestic circuit they have some exciting prospects who can't seem to get in.
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Another example of South Africa fielding players who are there based on their skin colour.

Dala, Sipamla (not a limited overs bowler), Hendricks, Andile all getting selected. This is a really poor side.

When you have Nandre Burger in the squad and Ryan Rickelton
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I've watched 19 balls from Malan batting and he's already shown me why he's the next big thing in LOI cricket. There's almost a perfect blend between Gibbs and De Villiers. Stupidly talented kid. It just goes to show that if the selectors get the correct players in the correct positions SA have the muscle to still be one of the best sides in the world.

Dala being selected in this side is just an absolute joke
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International T20s don't matter much except for the World Cup, so it's ok if they fill in the transformation targets in these games. Also a lot of players got selected because as per the original schedule the main players were supposed to go back to prepare playing Australia.
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The players dug deep in this game at least with the bat, but the bowling looking toothless
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Here's a name I almost forgot about.

Dewald Brevis - just remember that name.
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Another shocking team selection.

They've selected Andile and Sipamla again even though they've been pummeled this series. Nandre Burger has just been carrying drinks for lesser players this series and its a joke.

Okele is a good player too.

Smuts and Van Biljion should be nowhere near this side.
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South Africa are the epitome of a side on decline. What thr actual f**k was Andile doing at the end there with the ball ?! Full tosses and wides and no balls. That's absolutely pathetic.

Fortain, Andile, Sipamla and Dala absolutely have no warrant to be in this T20 side now. Really shocking
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International sport becomes a mockery when teams are picked along racial lines and not epitome of excellence.

Why has the world not stepped in?
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Taking Ryan Rickleton and Nandre Burger but not playing them was absolutely pathetic. Malan has shown that he could be the next best thing in terms of opening the batting in LOI'S
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Rickleton is a serious talent.

I can't believe De Zorsi was left at home as well
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Faf du Plessis has retired from test cricket. Another big name to replace in the batting order.
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They are not broadcasting Australia - New Zealand series here in India but somehow we get the broadcast of this RSA T20 challenge 🤦‍♂️

Randomly saw a bit of the action, Zubayr Hamza got a couple of 50s, he was playing for RSA not so long ago... Looked a good prospect but seems to have lost form lately.
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He's not a bad player to be honest, but there's better batters in the system.

De Zorzi is a good player and should be given an opportunity
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:24 pm

They are not broadcasting Australia - New Zealand series here in India but somehow we get the broadcast of this RSA T20 challenge 🤦‍♂️

Randomly saw a bit of the action, Zubayr Hamza got a couple of 50s, he was playing for RSA not so long ago... Looked a good prospect but seems to have lost form lately.


Even in Oz we don't seem to be getting as much international cricket on pay TV!

The Sri Lanka v England series & The Pakistan v South Africa series weren't on Fox, usually we get all Test series except for the ones hosted by Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and of course Afghanistan & Ireland.

Maybe another sign that the interest in Test cricket is fading? Or another sign that the Big Three only care about each other and no one else
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Nah some of this stuff has been on kayo. Also they are showing SA T20 on kayo. Also you can watch on smartcric or Pakistan YouTube channel for Pakistan games
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Theyre showing the SA T20 on fox too. I expected them to show the Pak v SA series. Problem is that Fox has invested so heavily in AFL, NRL, and Aus cricket that it leaves very little for the rest. They've also lost Rugby, Football (mainly EPL) and on the brink of the A-league moving away too. They are struggling to keep subscribers and investing in Cricket Australia was a big move for them. If Cricket moves away after the current deal (which i really hope they do), i dare say Fox Sports would be finished. They are showing a lot of smaller sports like the basketball and baseball. Replays and old shows take up a lot of their programming.

Not many are willing to pay just for AFL and NRL.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:11 am


sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:24 pm

They are not broadcasting Australia - New Zealand series here in India but somehow we get the broadcast of this RSA T20 challenge 🤦‍♂️

Randomly saw a bit of the action, Zubayr Hamza got a couple of 50s, he was playing for RSA not so long ago... Looked a good prospect but seems to have lost form lately.


Even in Oz we don't seem to be getting as much international cricket on pay TV!

The Sri Lanka v England series & The Pakistan v South Africa series weren't on Fox, usually we get all Test series except for the ones hosted by Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and of course Afghanistan & Ireland.

Maybe another sign that the interest in Test cricket is fading? Or another sign that the Big Three only care about each other and no one else


T20 leagues getting preference by the broadcasters as the general public likes to see that. I know people like us, we are cricket nerds who will watch any game and prefer tests and ODIs, but for a casual cricket viewer, sadly, T20s are the preferred format now.

I understand Aus-Nzl are playing T20s, but none of the channels have taken the broadcast rights of NZL home season in India because those are usually early morning games 3 30 a.m starts, even ODIs are like 6 30 a.m starts... So people don't get to watch much, unless they are willing to sacrifice their sleep for a neutral game.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:13 am

T20 leagues getting preference by the broadcasters as the general public likes to see that. I know people like us, we are cricket nerds who will watch any game and prefer tests and ODIs, but for a casual cricket viewer, sadly, T20s are the preferred format now.

I understand Aus-Nzl are playing T20s, but none of the channels have taken the broadcast rights of NZL home season in India because those are usually early morning games 3 30 a.m starts, even ODIs are like 6 30 a.m starts... So people don't get to watch much, unless they are willing to sacrifice their sleep for a neutral game.


I've been curious, is there a reason Indian players don't play in any other T20 leagues? It would obviously benefit that league big time in terms of broadcast rights. It would also benefit those Indian players in terms of playing in foreign conditions and against foreign players.

I was thinking about it this season when we (Brisbane) lost Banton. We got Denly as a replacement but he had to do a 14 day quarantine and fly in from England which meant his missed 4 matches I think. Whereas someone like Pandya was already here in Aus and could have slotted straight in to the team.

Was there a cricket league back home they had to get to or do Indian players just not play in any other league unless BCCI sanction it?
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:45 am

I've been curious, is there a reason Indian players don't play in any other T20 leagues? It would obviously benefit that league big time in terms of broadcast rights. It would also benefit those Indian players in terms of playing in foreign conditions and against foreign players.


BCCI wantsto protect the primacy of the IPL over other leagues so Indian players aren't allowed to play in any other T20 league. At least thats what I remember reading somewhere years ago.
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