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I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.

Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.

Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.

You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.

I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:50 am


zimfan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:41 am

What is this South African attack? is this the moment when the downfall starts to accelerate? I am amazed if Sipamla is in the top 10 pacers in the country let along opening the bowling.

Easily the worst bowling attack South Africa have fielded since readmission.


I can’t comment specifically on this attack as I’ve lost interest in SA cricket.

The reason is similar to Zims but worse.

It’s just BS that we have test teams not fielding close to their best sides for political reasons.

It’s actually absurd and not what elite test cricket is about and the ICC are ridiculous for allowing it.

Can you imagine if the NBA was forced to field a 60% white team to ‘better represent the demographics’ of the country?

Or the NHL had to field 2 Latino’s and 2 coloureds for the same reasons?

Ditto track and field. Or any sport.

I hope that one day we as society can look back on this and go ‘wtf was that about’ but I fear that day is not anytime soon with all the ‘woke’ stuff about.

We are dealing with people angry at Gal Gadot for playing cleopatra in a movie and not a black person, even though Cleopatra was greek? And looked like Gal Gadot. Ffs.


Spot on. Countries are crippled by racial pressure but the point of the NBA made me laugh. Its so true and the league would be a farce if 3 of the 5 players had to be white. It won't happen because reverse racism isn't a thing. Here in Zim we are so out outnumbered now it just doesn't feel right. But life goes on.

The saffer scenario will kill them off. Even zim at their best were not even close to SA at their best...so watching this downfall will be good entertainment value but also incredibly sad. How some of the coloured players can strip up knowing they aren't even close to be being the best in country is a little embarrassing. I'd just feel awkward but I guess their palms are open for the paychecks. I amm a but over white vs black stuff. Its ridiculous and never works they other way.
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To be honest I think white people (as a whole, we do have our own psychopaths) are just too kind hearted and mean well, and every minority group just absolutely take advantage of

This fact.

You don’t see big outcry’s of CURRENT slavery practices in North Africa, because you/they know it will just be on deaf ears and they themselves won’t benefit.

And can you imagine doing any sort of public XYZlivesmatter in China/Iran/Saudi or any major non white country?

What did make me laugh is the gay mafia tried to spread their wings into Russia but got the gay slapped out of them quickly. It’s my theory that they thought because Russia is another white European* country they’ll buckle.

However Russia may be white but they are not west, so don’t have this inner guilt thing of trying to appease everyone.

*European in the parts that matter, the Moscow to St Petersburg region. I’m aware that a lot of rural whoop whoop Russia falls in continental Asia.
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Wiaan Mulder takes three wickets on the first day.

I think it’s embarrassing that a side like Sri Lanka, who struggle away from home, have racked up 360 on the first day...

Says a lot really about the attack. Only Nortje and Mulder looked threatening
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I hope Sri Lanka beat them again
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What are the racial issues in Indian cricket? Are players from certain states favoured over others?
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eugene wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:05 am

What are the racial issues in Indian cricket? Are players from certain states favoured over others?


In India, currently race is on based of religion. Current govt ruling party runs hate campaign against minority Muslims & other religion. Previously there were some accusation of discrimination based on state. I think current cricket team is almost devoid of any quota or racism though.
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Got myself a pot of coffee, some crumpets and a blanket to ease the hangover while I watch Markram create art with his bat. Best way to ease a severe hangover, what a player. The way he punches off the back foot is so rare to see.

Kumara is bowling 92mph rockets as well and he’s making it look so easy.

Get Van Tonder in there next and Keegan Peterson when Du Plessis retires and the middle order looks quite strong. Elgar when he retires will open up another spot too.

They just need to do away with both Hendricks’ and get some of the younger blokes in there. Delighted to see Mulder doing well. Just need Coetzee in there now
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South Africa qouta System may end them like Zimbabwe in comming years.
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199 for Du Plessis - that’s crazy bad batting
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sloandog wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:00 pm

199 for Du Plessis - that’s crazy bad batting


Personally I think that is great batting to get such a score.
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Referring to the way he got out
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Sri Lanka have lost 3 players to injury during this match

That’s incredible
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:34 pm

Sri Lanka have lost 3 players to injury during this match

That’s incredible


Bangladesh lost a similar # last year vs India. Nayeem, A batsman and I think Abu Jayed all got bounced to injury. On top of that Shakib was banned, and Tamim asked to be rested.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:16 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:34 pm

Sri Lanka have lost 3 players to injury during this match

That’s incredible


Bangladesh lost a similar # last year vs India. Nayeem, A batsman and I think Abu Jayed all got bounced to injury. On top of that Shakib was banned, and Tamim asked to be rested.


That is nowhere near the misery the Lankans are going through. They were already without their best batsman and best bowler in the XI (Mathews and Lakmal). They lost their only top class 2-dimensional player Dhananjaya de Silva when he was on song. Lost his bowling too. Then lost two more pacers during the match. They also lost their spinner for a while too from what I read, so they were playing with 1.5 bowlers on the field as all their casualties were bowlers!

Shanaka bowling 28 overs is like Hammy bowling those many overs in an innings. This has been a disaster for them. With a full side, they would have fancied beating SA again, probably more easily than last time.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:16 pm


jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:34 pm

Sri Lanka have lost 3 players to injury during this match

That’s incredible


Bangladesh lost a similar # last year vs India. Nayeem, A batsman and I think Abu Jayed all got bounced to injury. On top of that Shakib was banned, and Tamim asked to be rested.


Bangladesh were able to substitute both players who were concussed

Sri Lanka haven’t been able to substitute any
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They’ve absolutely bummed the Sri Lankan’s here
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I can’t recall how long ago it was, sometime between 5-15 years ago, West Indies were depleted similarly in their bowling stocks and all the batsmen were bowling their dibble dobbkies at the opposition. Cant recall the opposition but I think it was one of the curry teams.
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The ICC would have to move on from rigidity on this issue and try to accommodate substitutes in cases like this. The whole thing became completely one-sided. Of course some teams can take advantage of this and let low performers during a match to fake injuries, or sub someone after their designated role is done, etc. But it is possible to handle such scenarios with the right kind of thoughts and rules put in. It is just sad to see a team suffer like this when they can at least put up a fight.
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Both physio’s need to agree on it, then it would be equal footing. This game turned into a complete joke.
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It’s a no for me, Sri Lanka were unlucky in this test match, but it’s very rare players get injured.

It won’t be long until we see someone take advantage of the concussion sub rule, but the injury one will be even more easy to exploit

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