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I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.

Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.

Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.

You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.

I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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Ya that was savage, wasn't even a contest. I think they're playing a test now? That's going to be very interesting.

Bavuma's post match talk was interesting, he's sharp, was asked a couple of tricky questions and fielded them well.

He was as perplexed as I am over that lop sided affair. SA have got some damned fine players and they were rolled.

Of course that happens once in a while, it's cricket, but it looked to be a bit more than that- Bangladesh are in the ascendancy in 50 over cricket, that's for sure.
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Unless you're Rajput, the life of an international coach must be tough. You are away from home for years. I'd have thought someone like Donald would have made enough money to retire or have set himself up in his own country and not have to do that. Its one thing if you're single like Grant Flower, but if you're married with kids that's a tough gig, but certainly well paid. I guess if Donald stays in the mix long enuf and his team does well he may at some point be offered a role in the SA team and that would probably be his last, plus any T20 roles that may come his way.

This cricket is not an easy life. I don't recall which team, but there was one that basically didn't get home for about a year.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:41 pm


Googly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:00 pm

Mustafiz is my guy. He must be f***ing impossible to face as a right hander. He's unique

How many of these super league games have we played? I've lost count.


We have played 12. Got 12 left. The Netherlands, Afghanistan, India and Australia left. Its going to get interesting. Its not as simple as it looks. 1 big will have to play the qualifiers. I'm backing Afghanistan to qualify directly over SA, especially if they grab a minimum of 20 points overs. I think 100 points is enough to qualify


Do you think we will actually ever play India and Australia?

We've been so long in the dark it just seems so improbable.

That is one terrifying step up from List A cricket here. How do you actually prepare for that?
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Googly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:04 am


TapsC2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:41 pm


Googly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:00 pm

Mustafiz is my guy. He must be f***ing impossible to face as a right hander. He's unique

How many of these super league games have we played? I've lost count.


We have played 12. Got 12 left. The Netherlands, Afghanistan, India and Australia left. Its going to get interesting. Its not as simple as it looks. 1 big will have to play the qualifiers. I'm backing Afghanistan to qualify directly over SA, especially if they grab a minimum of 20 points overs. I think 100 points is enough to qualify


Do you think we will actually ever play India and Australia?

We've been so long in the dark it just seems so improbable.

That is one terrifying step up from List A cricket here. How do you actually prepare for that?


India tour is confirmed.
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Rickleton debut and Harmer is back
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I'm looking forward to watching Harmer.
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Harmer showing his class. Serious spin bowler, probably the best off spinner in the world
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sloandog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:17 am

Harmer showing his class. Serious spin bowler, probably the best off spinner in the world


Whats the difference between him and someone like Ashwin?
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slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:32 am


sloandog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:17 am

Harmer showing his class. Serious spin bowler, probably the best off spinner in the world


Whats the difference between him and someone like Ashwin?


Ashwin just doesn't seem to be able to do it on none responsive wickets. He doesn't get anywhere near as much loop as Harmer does and I think he bowls too flat. When it's turning and he's in the subcontinent, he's lethal, but so is any spinner. Harmer seems to think a batter out and he really does give it a rip. Best off spinner in the world for me
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Mulder has been very disappointing tbh
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slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:53 pm

Mulder has been very disappointing tbh


Sp dissapointed with his performances. When he debuted against Sri Lanka in 2018 he was hitting 140kph regularly and he looked so confident with the bat. Not sure what's going on but it doesn't look good. Dwayne Pretorious might be a genuinely more safe selection for now. Gerald Coetzee and Corbin Bosch are absolutely worth a punt
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sloandog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:08 pm


slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:53 pm

Mulder has been very disappointing tbh


Sp dissapointed with his performances. When he debuted against Sri Lanka in 2018 he was hitting 140kph regularly and he looked so confident with the bat. Not sure what's going on but it doesn't look good. Dwayne Pretorious might be a genuinely more safe selection for now. Gerald Coetzee and Corbin Bosch are absolutely worth a punt


He was hyped as like a new Kallis or something wasn't he? Maybe he needs to back to first class and rebuild his confidence or something.
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He's absolutely good enough for this level, but it's pretty clear to see that he's no Kallis
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So impressed with Simon Harmer. For the first time South Africa have 2 world class test spinners in Harmer and Maharaj. May be they are saying 'Bring on the india tour' 😁

By the way any news on the duration of ban on Zubayr Hamza?

Guy seem to have got into terrible mess. I'll still take him over Khaya Zondo.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:31 pm

So impressed with Simon Harmer. For the first time South Africa have 2 world class test spinners in Harmer and Maharaj. May be they are saying 'Bring on the india tour' 😁

By the way any news on the duration of ban on Zubayr Hamza?

Guy seem to have got into terrible mess. I'll still take him over Khaya Zondo.


He was part of india tour test series in 2015, wasn't so much effective.
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:15 am


sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:31 pm

So impressed with Simon Harmer. For the first time South Africa have 2 world class test spinners in Harmer and Maharaj. May be they are saying 'Bring on the india tour' 😁

By the way any news on the duration of ban on Zubayr Hamza?

Guy seem to have got into terrible mess. I'll still take him over Khaya Zondo.


He was part of india tour test series in 2015, wasn't so much effective.


Oh I didn't realize that. In anycase i was just kidding, beating india in India is the toughest task for any team in the world right now. It is like beating Nadal on Clay in his prime. Next to impossible.
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Why's Hamza been banned

sloandog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:42 am

Why's Hamza been banned


He tested positive for a banned substance.
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Nate646 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:17 pm


sloandog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:42 am

Why's Hamza been banned


He tested positive for a banned substance.


What a d**k.

He's probably f***ed his opportunity there, because he'd probably have got in ahead if Rickleton. Who, by the way, looked excellent in the recently concluded series!

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