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I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.

Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.

Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.

You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.

I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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Ya I haven't really seen much of them. I'll keep an eye. I'm sure Markram is on very thin ice now. Every time they send him down he bangs runs in franchise.
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Malan is as talented as gibbs was at his age, he's that good. Hamza I dont rate, at all
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Invest in Peterson. What a serious talent. I said it the last time England were out there, Peterstone should have been playing. I mean for god sake if you have the backing of the great Jaques Kallis you're doing something right
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Love me a good whinge by India cricket. It seems they can accept when things go against them.

Such sore losers.
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Good on South Africa.
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What an incredible win for South Africa. It is tough to take for India no doubt. Didn't expect this esp after the 1st test. South Africa punched above their weight.

Peterson, Jansen and Rabada were the stars of this series win. Honestly speaking Bavuma looked good to me for the first time in his career, he has scaled up.

May be Solan can throw some light on Marco Jansen, is he good enough to be a proper all rounder or just a bowler who can bat a bit? Will be interesting to see if he makes the ODI team, and if he does will it be at the expense of an all rounder or he can play as a bowler on rotational basis.
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Jansen absolutely has the potential to become a genuine bowling allrounder. He already has 5 FC half centuries I think? What hit me during his bowling was the amount of bounce he got. Some of those deliveries were toxic. Amazing work from the young bloke.

Peterson looks genuinely class and I'm excites to see him play on a flat deck. If he can score runs on this wicket he can score anywhere
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How pathetic are the Indians? Going up to the stump microphone and saying what they said. Liked spoilt rich kids not getting their own way.

How has Kholi got away with that again? Ridiculous
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The bad thing is India will blame the technology for this loss, when they were simply just out played by South Africa.

To be fair though I watched that one that was supposed to go over the stumps. To me it was definitely hitting the stumps. Gave me a laugh watching them have a good moan 😂
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Erasmus wasn't happy either was he
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sloandog wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:46 pm

How pathetic are the Indians? Going up to the stump microphone and saying what they said. Liked spoilt rich kids not getting their own way.

How has Kholi got away with that again? Ridiculous


That was a terrible look, wasn't it?
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People who don't even know much about cricket were so confused and angry at what was said. I've never seen that before, where a cricketer goes up to the microphone and speaks directly to the broadcaster. Really was embarrassing. Get a grip lads, you were outplayed and that's the bottom line
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Are Indians not taught as kids, like the rest of us are, to respect the umpires/decisions and that there is a line you don't cross? Hope he gets a ban. I like his attitude and stuff usually but my god, this isn't the first time he's overstepped and looked such a p***k.

I'm not an SA fan usually (long story), but glad they won this.
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It was embarrassing. Not the kind of attitude I'd expect from international cricketers. These players are millionaires and have the backing of the strongest cricket board in the world, so obviously they are not going to give a damn about the consequences. They know no one can touch them.

Like it or not but that's the truth.

As I said before, I fear that these players getting so much money without even playing a single international game is not good for the future of the game. Why would anyone want to work hard and toil over 5 days if you are getting millions for a domestic T20 tournament?
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India was thrashed, dodgy umpire decisions play a role in close matches…not the massacre that just took place. So even with technology, frame by frame replays, snicko, stump mics, the losing team is still moaning about being cheated?? Come on !!! Unfortunately India own the ICC and cricket in general, now that SA hurt Kohli’s feelings, they might find themselves deprived of future bilateral tours 😂
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What hit me was a case of 'monkey see monkey do' with a lot of the players. Once Kholi did it, they all did it. Ashwin was embarrassing. I expected better from him.

Slightly dissapointed with Verreyne I'll be honest. The kid is an absolute rocket with the bat and he'll come good, but maybe for now, as I've said, keep him and Jannaman Malan in the ODI set up to build some confidence.

Kassen with the gloves would be a better shout or, if you're looking to the future and competition for Verreyne, Makwetu. Serious keeper and an exciting batter
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Before this series a lot of forumites were writing the South Africans off, saying they were inexperienced and didn't have the batting to win.

I called it that Jansen and Peterson would be the ones to watch, as well as Verreyne (clipped the stumps on that one).

My point is that South African Cricket is in a much healthier state than people realise. They have a number of exciting batters pushing for spots and probably have some of the best fast bowlers in the world.

I just really want to see Van Tonder or Matty Breetske in the side (any side!) soon. Then Gerald Coetzee as an allrounder. These three lads are stratospherically talented cricketers, the letter being praised by Lance Klusener.

Exciting times ahead for these guys
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I didn't totally disagree with the Indians. A couple of those ball tracking things are wrong. Its hard to argue with technology but it didn't look right. Even the commentators were going Mmmmmm....
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Googly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:00 pm

Mustafiz is my guy. He must be f***ing impossible to face as a right hander. He's unique

How many of these super league games have we played? I've lost count.


We have played 12. Got 12 left. The Netherlands, Afghanistan, India and Australia left. Its going to get interesting. Its not as simple as it looks. 1 big will have to play the qualifiers. I'm backing Afghanistan to qualify directly over SA, especially if they grab a minimum of 20 points over us. I think 100 points is enough to qualify
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They won by 9 wickets too. Not a fluke. Very bad look for SA

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