I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.
Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.
Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.
You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.
I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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Ireland will create more worry and will be a giant killers, once their foreign recruits clear their visas & passport issues, which at present seems only barier for their Ireland national call.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:04 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:26 am
Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:06 pm
My prediction from a couple years ago was ZIM would be fighting tooth and nail with Ireland and Netherlands to avoid being last in the SL.
This will be the first huge challenge for not just the Big 4 (Taylor, Williams, Ervine, Raza) but also the new Big 5 (Madhevere, Myers, Marumani, Musakanda, Muzarabani).
If the top ranked side from League 2 finshes the World Cup Qualifier ranked ahead of the 13th SL team, they will replace them in the next SL cycle.
True mate, Zimbabwe have got their work cut out. Will be interesting to see if they can step up. I hope they do.
Isnt the Super League going to be cancelled with an expanded world cup after this cycle? It wont make any sense after that besides being a champions trophy qualifier.
As for Ireland let's wait and see. They have a long way to go. You didnt see people here saying Zimbabwe is back when they beat Pakistan in Pakistan last year to claim 10 points.
Consistency is key and as far as I can see Afghanistan and Ireland have got a long way to go before they get to Bangladesh or Sri Lanka's level. You have to be able to consistenly compete(not necessarily win) in any conditions for you to get to that level.
The 1 off test between Afghanistan and Australia will show what I mean if it still takes place. It's going to be ugly judging by what I saw a few months ago
What even is Sri Lankas level lol
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:04 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:26 am
Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:06 pm
My prediction from a couple years ago was ZIM would be fighting tooth and nail with Ireland and Netherlands to avoid being last in the SL.
This will be the first huge challenge for not just the Big 4 (Taylor, Williams, Ervine, Raza) but also the new Big 5 (Madhevere, Myers, Marumani, Musakanda, Muzarabani).
If the top ranked side from League 2 finshes the World Cup Qualifier ranked ahead of the 13th SL team, they will replace them in the next SL cycle.
True mate, Zimbabwe have got their work cut out. Will be interesting to see if they can step up. I hope they do.
Isnt the Super League going to be cancelled with an expanded world cup after this cycle? It wont make any sense after that besides being a champions trophy qualifier.
As for Ireland let's wait and see. They have a long way to go. You didnt see people here saying Zimbabwe is back when they beat Pakistan in Pakistan last year to claim 10 points.
Consistency is key and as far as I can see Afghanistan and Ireland have got a long way to go before they get to Bangladesh or Sri Lanka's level. You have to be able to consistenly compete(not necessarily win) in any conditions for you to get to that level.
The 1 off test between Afghanistan and Australia will show what I mean if it still takes place. It's going to be ugly judging by what I saw a few months ago
What even is Sri Lankas level lol
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what does everyone think about this? Herschelle Gibbs talked about a similar kinda thing
what does everyone think about this? Herschelle Gibbs talked about a similar kinda thing
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what does everyone think about this? Herschelle Gibbs talked about a similar kinda thing
what does everyone think about this? Herschelle Gibbs talked about a similar kinda thing
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Thami Tsolekile blames AB & Smith
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricfit.co ... liers/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
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Thami Tsolekile blames AB & Smith
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricfit.co ... liers/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricfit.co ... liers/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
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No matter the results. Irish team has been phenomenal against Proteas. A neck to neck fight great to watch.
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No matter the results. Irish team has been phenomenal against Proteas. A neck to neck fight great to watch.
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:17 am
Thami Tsolekile blames AB & Smith
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricfit.co ... liers/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
Sour f***ing grapes from a mediocre wicket keeper.
I know damn well who I would rather have behind the stumps if I was Graeme Smith, if I had AB in the squad. This guy is just bitter because he was in the shadow of a South African great and, surprise surprise, he plays the race card. Pathetic. Get a grip
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:11 pm
No matter the results. Irish team has been phenomenal against Proteas. A neck to neck fight great to watch.
They were terrible and completely outplayed in 5 of the 6 matches. 'Great to watch', although I'm 99% confident you didn't actually watch any of it.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:55 pm
Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:11 pm
No matter the results. Irish team has been phenomenal against Proteas. A neck to neck fight great to watch.
They were terrible and completely outplayed in 5 of the 6 matches. 'Great to watch', although I'm 99% confident you didn't actually watch any of it.
Try to appreciate what others do which you can't do
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Proteas confirmed a 3 ODI and 3T20 tour of Srilanka in September. ODIs are part of WSL.
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sloandog wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pm
Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:17 am
Thami Tsolekile blames AB & Smith
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricfit.co ... liers/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iol.co ... da9b6e0052
Sour f***ing grapes from a mediocre wicket keeper.
I know damn well who I would rather have behind the stumps if I was Graeme Smith, if I had AB in the squad. This guy is just bitter because he was in the shadow of a South African great and, surprise surprise, he plays the race card. Pathetic. Get a grip
Thami was also a match fixer. The race card is the only one he could play because he has no credibility otherwise.
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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I lost all respect for my captain, he blocked my selection: Khaya Zondo slams AB de Villiers
https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/new ... ium=SKMain
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:07 am
I lost all respect for my captain, he blocked my selection: Khaya Zondo slams AB de Villiers
https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/new ... ium=SKMain
Good post Rajkumar Sharma.
For me this highlights the bitterness of some black South African players. I'm sorry gents but, honestly, for that 2018 series, Zonda was not a front runner. He averaged 32 in the LA series that summer and even less in the FC competition. Annoys me.
Imagine if Raynard Van Tonder came out and said the quota system was keeping him out of the side??
He'd be deemed as a racist and a white privileged p***k. Absolutely pathetic. SOUTH AFRICA HAVE AN ISSUE WITH RACE!!!!!!! DON'T TRY AND TAKE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT 😠😠😠😠😠
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Useless cricketers who achieved nothing in their career are now playing the race card and speaking as if they were some legends in the making but for lack of opportunities because of their color.
Phangiso, why would anyone in their right mind play him ahead of Immi (also colored) during the 2015 WC. Why would Zondo be playing in a crucial deciding ODI against India in 2015 a game where AB eventuallu demolished us. Tshabalala, who is he seriously, anyone knows him? Tsolikile, Tsotsobe I think they were caught of match fixing as well, yet they are blaming legendary cricketers. How disgusting.
Well established coloured cricketers like Hashim Amla, Imran Tahir, JP Duminy, Vernon Philander, Temba Bavuma haven't spoken a thing. It's these mediocre ones who are playing the race card quite shamelessly.
Phangiso, why would anyone in their right mind play him ahead of Immi (also colored) during the 2015 WC. Why would Zondo be playing in a crucial deciding ODI against India in 2015 a game where AB eventuallu demolished us. Tshabalala, who is he seriously, anyone knows him? Tsolikile, Tsotsobe I think they were caught of match fixing as well, yet they are blaming legendary cricketers. How disgusting.
Well established coloured cricketers like Hashim Amla, Imran Tahir, JP Duminy, Vernon Philander, Temba Bavuma haven't spoken a thing. It's these mediocre ones who are playing the race card quite shamelessly.
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All of the above, except Ashwell Prince, were out and out average players at best. Tschabalala was a seriously bad off spinner but was thrown in to the ODI side in 2007 against Zimbabwe based on absolutely nothing.
The fact they are now playing the race card is disgusting as you rightly said sam
The fact they are now playing the race card is disgusting as you rightly said sam
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