I know this is for ZC only but I wanted other people opinion on the shambolic performance of South Africa.
Apparently they now have to field 7 players of colour in the side, with three being black African.
Ngidi, Bavuma and Rabada are all there, yet both the Hendricks make the sides. Two of the most over rated cricketers and blatant quota selections ever.
You have Jannaman Malan and Kyle Verryene in the squad who can’t get a game, yet they have to select inferior players based on race.
I actually think this might be the end of a competitive South Africa cricket team. I don’t see how they can compete when they play cricketers like Hendricks and, because of politics, have to ignore guys like Coetzee, Muelder and Malan.
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The slimy buggers at the ICC wasted no time in banning SA...oh wait..
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:43 am
The slimy buggers at the ICC wasted no time in banning SA...oh wait..
Pathetic isn't it mate. Just shows the double standards of the ICC. Do you think they would treat India so harshly if their government intervened
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:49 am
Pathetic isn't it mate. Just shows the double standards of the ICC. Do you think they would treat India so harshly if their government intervened
They moved on us so quick and couldn't care less that they were giving power to the bad guys. The worst thing is that the only people who suffered for it were the players and the fans.
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South Africa making light work of the Windies so far. A bit disappointing to see Keegan Peterson and Verreynne not grabbing their chances though. It could mean a comeback for Bavuma.
Nortje has really stepped up, he is bowling fire.
Nortje has really stepped up, he is bowling fire.
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Lot of people consider WI as a favourite for T20 World Cup, South Africa have just beaten them in a 5 match series.
Test series in the bag, T20 Series in the bag. Fantastic stuff by the proteas.
De Kock seems to have found his form again, and Shamsi was just brilliant in the T20 series. I doubt if they will go back to Tahir, considering Linde is a handy batsman.
Test series in the bag, T20 Series in the bag. Fantastic stuff by the proteas.
De Kock seems to have found his form again, and Shamsi was just brilliant in the T20 series. I doubt if they will go back to Tahir, considering Linde is a handy batsman.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:54 am
Lot of people consider WI as a favourite for T20 World Cup, South Africa have just beaten them in a 5 match series.
Test series in the bag, T20 Series in the bag. Fantastic stuff by the proteas.
De Kock seems to have found his form again, and Shamsi was just brilliant in the T20 series. I doubt if they will go back to Tahir, considering Linde is a handy batsman.
Reckon they should go w Tahir esp since he helps out w the quota dilemmas even though his celebrations are kinda annnoying. I reckon West Indies are favourites too, they just need to play as a together for a bit, I mean look at that lineup holy s**t
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I am going take back what I said about SA a few months ago when I thought they were on the decline. That performance against the windies has proved me wrong. Still plenty of class in that team, especially in the bowling attack.
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slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:35 am
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:54 am
Lot of people consider WI as a favourite for T20 World Cup, South Africa have just beaten them in a 5 match series.
Test series in the bag, T20 Series in the bag. Fantastic stuff by the proteas.
De Kock seems to have found his form again, and Shamsi was just brilliant in the T20 series. I doubt if they will go back to Tahir, considering Linde is a handy batsman.
Reckon they should go w Tahir esp since he helps out w the quota dilemmas even though his celebrations are kinda annnoying. I reckon West Indies are favourites too, they just need to play as a together for a bit, I mean look at that lineup holy s**t
True, but including Immi will give them a long tail, Linde's batting will come in handy, and he is doing a fair job to be honest.
Ideally Reeza should make way for Verreynne or Faf in the T20 WC, but the transformation doesn't help here, Mulder has done a good job too... Will be interesting if they prefer Phelukwayo over him for T20 WC.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:18 pm
slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:35 am
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:54 am
Lot of people consider WI as a favourite for T20 World Cup, South Africa have just beaten them in a 5 match series.
Test series in the bag, T20 Series in the bag. Fantastic stuff by the proteas.
De Kock seems to have found his form again, and Shamsi was just brilliant in the T20 series. I doubt if they will go back to Tahir, considering Linde is a handy batsman.
Reckon they should go w Tahir esp since he helps out w the quota dilemmas even though his celebrations are kinda annnoying. I reckon West Indies are favourites too, they just need to play as a together for a bit, I mean look at that lineup holy s**t
True, but including Immi will give them a long tail, Linde's batting will come in handy, and he is doing a fair job to be honest.
Ideally Reeza should make way for Verreynne or Faf in the T20 WC, but the transformation doesn't help here, Mulder has done a good job too... Will be interesting if they prefer Phelukwayo over him for T20 WC.
surely none of that can happen w the quota system lol. Idm Phelukwayo in loi though, he has decent enough stats
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South africa still have a stupid amount of prodigious talent coming through, they just need to get their selections right and in fairness, this tour to the West Indies was a good example of what they can achieve when the right players are picked.
De Kock has finally hit form, Shamsi is on fire and the fast bowlers are just starting to click.
I really hope they can turn it around, they have a long, rich history
De Kock has finally hit form, Shamsi is on fire and the fast bowlers are just starting to click.
I really hope they can turn it around, they have a long, rich history
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Ireland have just hit 290 against SA. From a neutral perspective pretty nice to see Ireland becoming a properly decent team even if they do nab a few South Africans themselves
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Lots of South Africans exdomestics and few Zimbabweans in that Ireland set up. Might see new Irish power to get promoted through African talents like ECB
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The way Ireland are playing against South Africa, it looks like Zimbabwe will be in for a 3-0 drubbing at the hands of the Irish next month.
There are so many good teams out there, Zimbabwe's chances of qualifying for 2023 look very bleak. They are probably the weakest of all 13 teams. 🤦♂️
There are so many good teams out there, Zimbabwe's chances of qualifying for 2023 look very bleak. They are probably the weakest of all 13 teams. 🤦♂️
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Lots of South Africans exdomestics and few Zimbabweans in that Ireland set up. Might see new Irish power to get promoted through African talents like ECB
1 Saffer and 0 Zimbos in today’s Irish XI(10 Ireland-born I think). And the Irish domestic scene remains much much much weaker even than Zim.
But yeah really relevant point, great post.
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:06 pm
Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Lots of South Africans exdomestics and few Zimbabweans in that Ireland set up. Might see new Irish power to get promoted through African talents like ECB
1 Saffer and 0 Zimbos in today’s Irish XI(10 Ireland-born I think). And the Irish domestic scene remains much much much weaker even than Zim.
But yeah really relevant point, great post.
Lol I wasnt going to say anything but I was thinking the same.
Some people, maybe even me, really need to adhere to the ‘less is more’ posting strategy. Less posts, and when you are posting, more pointed content.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:32 pm
The way Ireland are playing against South Africa, it looks like Zimbabwe will be in for a 3-0 drubbing at the hands of the Irish next month.
There are so many good teams out there, Zimbabwe's chances of qualifying for 2023 look very bleak. They are probably the weakest of all 13 teams. 🤦♂️
My prediction from a couple years ago was ZIM would be fighting tooth and nail with Ireland and Netherlands to avoid being last in the SL.
This will be the first huge challenge for not just the Big 4 (Taylor, Williams, Ervine, Raza) but also the new Big 5 (Madhevere, Myers, Marumani, Musakanda, Muzarabani).
If the top ranked side from League 2 finshes the World Cup Qualifier ranked ahead of the 13th SL team, they will replace them in the next SL cycle.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:06 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:32 pm
The way Ireland are playing against South Africa, it looks like Zimbabwe will be in for a 3-0 drubbing at the hands of the Irish next month.
There are so many good teams out there, Zimbabwe's chances of qualifying for 2023 look very bleak. They are probably the weakest of all 13 teams. 🤦♂️
My prediction from a couple years ago was ZIM would be fighting tooth and nail with Ireland and Netherlands to avoid being last in the SL.
This will be the first huge challenge for not just the Big 4 (Taylor, Williams, Ervine, Raza) but also the new Big 5 (Madhevere, Myers, Marumani, Musakanda, Muzarabani).
If the top ranked side from League 2 finshes the World Cup Qualifier ranked ahead of the 13th SL team, they will replace them in the next SL cycle.
True mate, Zimbabwe have got their work cut out. Will be interesting to see if they can step up. I hope they do.
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:04 pm
sam_ahm wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:26 am
Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:06 pm
My prediction from a couple years ago was ZIM would be fighting tooth and nail with Ireland and Netherlands to avoid being last in the SL.
This will be the first huge challenge for not just the Big 4 (Taylor, Williams, Ervine, Raza) but also the new Big 5 (Madhevere, Myers, Marumani, Musakanda, Muzarabani).
If the top ranked side from League 2 finshes the World Cup Qualifier ranked ahead of the 13th SL team, they will replace them in the next SL cycle.
True mate, Zimbabwe have got their work cut out. Will be interesting to see if they can step up. I hope they do.
Isnt the Super League going to be cancelled with an expanded world cup after this cycle? It wont make any sense after that besides being a champions trophy qualifier.
As for Ireland let's wait and see. They have a long way to go. You didnt see people here saying Zimbabwe is back when they beat Pakistan in Pakistan last year to claim 10 points.
Consistency is key and as far as I can see Afghanistan and Ireland have got a long way to go before they get to Bangladesh or Sri Lanka's level. You have to be able to consistenly compete(not necessarily win) in any conditions for you to get to that level.
The 1 off test between Afghanistan and Australia will show what I mean if it still takes place. It's going to be ugly judging by what I saw a few months ago
14 teams world cup will surely reduce the importance of WSL but I think it will still be on, as will be the qualifiers. I think they will make it like top 10 from WSL directly qualify with another 4 qualifying from the qualifiers.
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Ireland will create more worry and will be a giant killers, once their foreign recruits clear their visas & passport issues, which at present seems only barier for their Ireland national call.
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