The guy heading up the ZCPA really has his head switched on as it's,makes great sense to allocate part of the money to ensure players can be paid in the future, he should work for ZC :D
However even if ZC climb down I would bet on some of that money that would be set aside to disappear :(
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ZC are being challenged by the players union and I guess the logical thing to do for ZC would be to find a weak link in the players union offer a bribe or split them along racial lines ',Oops that's not possible because the main members are essentially black Zimbabweans and Taylor is the only white player in the core of the union.So what they need to is to split them up and offer individuals and then that will weaken the strength of the Union.If the players union keep they cards close to the chest they will be able to out smart these money hungry ZC admins who will do anything to loot the funds.
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zimfan1 wrote:The guy heading up the ZCPA really has his head switched on as it's,makes great sense to allocate part of the money to ensure players can be paid in the future, he should work for ZC
Yes, and it is heartening to see the big 5 are together on this one: BRMT, HM, Vusi, Elton and Pro. Looks like there is already an attempt by ZC to show these 5 in a group of their own and the rest being kind of held for ransom by them. As long as the players are united (impressed by them so far) let us see this run its full course.
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You have to admire BRMT's loyalty to Zimbabwe he could be earning a lot more money if he took that county contract with Hampshire and have a more stable life for his family but he is so loyal and wants to lead his Country ......
The other guys also are very loyal but haven't had their loyalty tested as much as they wouldn't have attracted such offers or have the opportunities to head abroad ........
The other guys also are very loyal but haven't had their loyalty tested as much as they wouldn't have attracted such offers or have the opportunities to head abroad ........
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A players fund is a good idea. The money needs to be held on trust for them so it can't be stolen. I think it might be fair to quibble over the %, because I am not sure 25% is the right number, but the funds need to be held so that they can be assured on some pay. Too much garbage, too many excuses and too many rows.
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ShareConant, the odd thing about Kanengoni-Malinga's 'clearing' of ZC is that the words apparently attributed to her are exactly those supplied to us by ZC/Chingoka in response to our line of questioning. Word for word. I didn't want to say anything until our piece was published today, but how exactly is government clearing ZC of alleged wrongdoing by reading out a ZC statement?
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Thanks for the info, and the article over on cricinfo, Liam. Great journalism. Must have been some work to dig this up.
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Great work Liam and Tristan, these were the exact things missing for ages. Will this change anything? At least this is the most high profile opening of the pandora's box till date. Let us see how this goes...
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Whoa, guys... I was just interested that nobody had commented yet that's all, and we normally interested in such articles.
Googly, just because I sided with HHM on a number of issues doesn't mean I endorse all his views. I was the very first on this forum to tangle with him, and I never backed down to this day. Divergent opinion is healthy.
The ZC leadership might very well be accused of poor leadership or mismanagement but nobody has yet to prove outright theft which is largely alleged in these forums. The ICC cleared them when the accusations were more vehement, now I don't see what's in it for them or their interest to keep the current board in place.
Anyway, Financial issues are by no means my forte which is why you will find me mum, bring on the cricket and teams, I will be vocal and stick to my points. And no, I still don't get all the hate on hhm. Get be absurd sometimes, but why would you be offended by hhm if you aren't by zimdoggy and Googly in his first few days here?
Noted, Liam. Government, as you know, is stupid. On another note, Temba Mliswa says "no way a Minister can buy a bank with clean money in this economy". Aah, life gets interesting.
Googly, just because I sided with HHM on a number of issues doesn't mean I endorse all his views. I was the very first on this forum to tangle with him, and I never backed down to this day. Divergent opinion is healthy.
The ZC leadership might very well be accused of poor leadership or mismanagement but nobody has yet to prove outright theft which is largely alleged in these forums. The ICC cleared them when the accusations were more vehement, now I don't see what's in it for them or their interest to keep the current board in place.
Anyway, Financial issues are by no means my forte which is why you will find me mum, bring on the cricket and teams, I will be vocal and stick to my points. And no, I still don't get all the hate on hhm. Get be absurd sometimes, but why would you be offended by hhm if you aren't by zimdoggy and Googly in his first few days here?
liamb wrote:Conant, the odd thing about Kanengoni-Malinga's 'clearing' of ZC is that the words apparently attributed to her are exactly those supplied to us by ZC/Chingoka in response to our line of questioning. Word for word. I didn't want to say anything until our piece was published today, but how exactly is government clearing ZC of alleged wrongdoing by reading out a ZC statement?
Noted, Liam. Government, as you know, is stupid. On another note, Temba Mliswa says "no way a Minister can buy a bank with clean money in this economy". Aah, life gets interesting.
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If anyone knows about theft it is Themba Mliswa.
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Conant wrote:Whoa, guys... I was just interested that nobody had commented yet that's all, and we normally interested in such articles.
Googly, just because I sided with HHM on a number of issues doesn't mean I endorse all his views. I was the very first on this forum to tangle with him, and I never backed down to this day. Divergent opinion is healthy.
The ZC leadership might very well be accused of poor leadership or mismanagement but nobody has yet to prove outright theft which is largely alleged in these forums. The ICC cleared them when the accusations were more vehement, now I don't see what's in it for them or their interest to keep the current board in place.
Anyway, Financial issues are by no means my forte which is why you will find me mum, bring on the cricket and teams, I will be vocal and stick to my points. And no, I still don't get all the hate on hhm. Get be absurd sometimes, but why would you be offended by hhm if you aren't by zimdoggy and Googly in his first few days here?
liamb wrote:Conant, the odd thing about Kanengoni-Malinga's 'clearing' of ZC is that the words apparently attributed to her are exactly those supplied to us by ZC/Chingoka in response to our line of questioning. Word for word. I didn't want to say anything until our piece was published today, but how exactly is government clearing ZC of alleged wrongdoing by reading out a ZC statement?
Noted, Liam. Government, as you know, is stupid. On another note, Temba Mliswa says "no way a Minister can buy a bank with clean money in this economy". Aah, life gets interesting.
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Why would anyone be offended by ZIMDOGGY?
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Or by me, I'm a nice guy!!
Allegations of financial misappropriation are difficult to prove because one would need to be privy to all the cash flows and I'm absolutely certain that no-one is. Financial mismanagement is glaringly obvious. Without full accountability there is absolutely no danger that ZC's hands are clean, if they were, then they would be the only Organization anywhere, let alone Zimbabwe, the most corrupt place on planet earth.
How long can these guys operate with no support or confidence from any sector? Of late there is virtually no single person, outside of ZC itself, that supports or endorses them in any way. Now is the time to demand change.... well actually the prime time was a few days ago, prior to the Zim team agreeing to terms, but they predictably folded. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during those negotiations. The third force that is supposedly destabilizing everything does not exist. There is one, but it is keeping these guys in power.
The fact is that people are afraid of change. Plus there do not appear to be any suitable alternatives, certainly none that are putting their hands up. What scares me is that I don't think anyone would be comfortable with a white guy in any prominent position and this does not sit well with me. Post WC is going to be the telling. There will be some money and these guys are going to blow through it in double quick time, then what? Surely we are all too tired to go through all of this yet again?
Allegations of financial misappropriation are difficult to prove because one would need to be privy to all the cash flows and I'm absolutely certain that no-one is. Financial mismanagement is glaringly obvious. Without full accountability there is absolutely no danger that ZC's hands are clean, if they were, then they would be the only Organization anywhere, let alone Zimbabwe, the most corrupt place on planet earth.
How long can these guys operate with no support or confidence from any sector? Of late there is virtually no single person, outside of ZC itself, that supports or endorses them in any way. Now is the time to demand change.... well actually the prime time was a few days ago, prior to the Zim team agreeing to terms, but they predictably folded. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during those negotiations. The third force that is supposedly destabilizing everything does not exist. There is one, but it is keeping these guys in power.
The fact is that people are afraid of change. Plus there do not appear to be any suitable alternatives, certainly none that are putting their hands up. What scares me is that I don't think anyone would be comfortable with a white guy in any prominent position and this does not sit well with me. Post WC is going to be the telling. There will be some money and these guys are going to blow through it in double quick time, then what? Surely we are all too tired to go through all of this yet again?
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Conant, what's the perception of Ellman_Brown, Pichanick and Arnott amongst the black fraternity?
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“The ZPCA said the pool would guarantee player payments and so avoiding the situation which occurred late last year of delayed salaries andmatch fees and enable ZC and the ZPCA to agree in due course on the appropriate number of contracts for next seas
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So the players will be paid-who'll pay their medical insurance, who'll pay travel,accommodation,washing their clothes, food during match days? ZC may just tell them to provide their own transport and accommodation and food out of their new wage bill- perhaps?
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