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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:43 pm
Anyone who reads too much into tour matches doesn't understand cricket very well.

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I take it that's why Taylor, Raza and Moor are hiding behind Cremer so early in the match?

196 all out, now 62/5 in the 2nd innings!!!

Whichever way one looks at it, this performance is pathetic from Zimbabwe! Horrendous!

Jarvis going at 4 runs per over. Lizaad Williams, not even within the Top 20 South African seamers bullying ZIM twice. 19 year old Cohen effortlessly reducing Raza's SL and WI heroics to nothing!

Surely an SA Varsity select XI, which is stronger than this side would've thumped Zimbabwe even more.

This is embarrassing!

When is Heath Streak getting sacked again???

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Tour match or not this is pathetic for Zim. No one stepping up.
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😂 These Sa Inv players desperate to bat twice and chase something notable. They forget that Taylor, Regis and Chibhabha haven't come in yet. Or maybe they just disrespect ZIM too much to bother with any homework.

Anyway, time to bring back the frontline seamers a bit before the close.

Easy runs for Moor and Burl (but Burl not cashing in, which is a concern).

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As I say that, Moor goes for 25. Surely Burl's 3(43) at a SR of 6.97 against such opposition is unforgivable! Then Heath and Taibu wil tell you they made a great pick. Nonsense. What match are you saving again such??? :?

91/6. Scores level.

Regis comes in. Still no Brendan Taylor! Has he been given another holiday again? Did he travel with Steyn to join the squad while he goes shopping in PE? Is he injured?
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pariah wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:58 pm


Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:43 pm
Anyone who reads too much into tour matches doesn't understand cricket very well.

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I take it that's why Taylor, Raza and Moor are hiding behind Cremer so early in the match?


Thats the whole point of a tour match. Its a 3 day game and the touring side will always try to maximize their preperation. No one is hiding, they are just trying to get Cremer as much batting as they can because he is relied upon to wield the willow.

ZIM, like any other touring side, aren't sweating over whether they win this game or not. Sure its great to thrash the opponent in a tour match, but thats not the objective. Its only a demoralising struggle if you're actually playing hard and getting beaten by a practice squad.

You may have a point if the actual Test match ends inside a day. Otherwise it will be evident that ZIM were not at 100% effort during the tour match.
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Unsure why he keeps calling this a Varsity squad.

10 franchise players plus 2 internationals.

Are you deranged, my friend?
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Tour matches do matter, and this is quite shocking. Once again it seems we have no plan for this match. Using bowlers unnecessarily and changing the batting with no structure.

Burl has missed out big time here. His SR in this match was shocking. You cannot be at the crease for that long and only score 17. There are always moments for everyone to step up, and these matches are those moments. If you fail to step up, you fail to succeed.

A lot needs to change in terms of our players mentalities, and their games.
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I’m confident come the test on Boxing Day the boys will put up a much greater fight , I know the signs don’t look good but a warm

Up always helps. Taylor is due a big one and Raza doesn’t fail to much , also pj seems to have the appetite for the big stage . Hope I’m correct or it’s going to be quiet ugly .
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We can only hope and pray for a better show in the test match proper. We do have a lot of things to learn very quickly - batting under lights, facing the pink ball, express pace... This could get really ugly but just hoping it wouldn't. Chamu scoring a 100 ball 50 here would be a blessing. He'll slot in at the top of the order and let Mire slide down.

Speaking of Mire, yeah, he should have been tried with the ball too. And Chamu.
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:19 pm

Burl has missed out big time here. His SR in this match was shocking. You cannot be at the crease for that long and only score 17. There are always moments for everyone to step up, and these matches are those moments. If you fail to step up, you fail to succeed.


At least he's still out there! Unlike most of the other guys. Let's hope he cashes in today.
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At list Burl is putting a price on his wicket. The rest seem to have no clue. we cant play like this and expect miracles in the test match proper. A lot of questions need to be asked about our brains trust.
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tawac wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:10 am
A lot of questions need to be asked about our brains trust.

How they continue to get such a free pass from the overwhelming majority of this forum boggles the mind.

Streak is surely the worst head coach in ZIM's history now. No other coach in such a short period, sunk to the kind of depths he has against opposition you least expect. Mediocrity at a premium.(Then again, even Whstmore was lauded for losing to AFG and IRE so why should Streak's treatment be surprising)

To think this is the man entrusted with CWC qualifying surely means ZIM are half doomed already.
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pariah wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:11 am

Streak is surely the worst head coach in ZIM's history now. No other coach in such a short period, sunk to the kind of depths he has against opposition you least expect. Mediocrity at a premium.(Then again, even Whstmore was lauded for losing to AFG and IRE so why should Streak's treatment be surprising)

To think this is the man entrusted with surely means ZIM are half doomed already.


Yeah dude, we get it, we have sunk to such depths that we even beat Sri Lanka 3-2 in their own backyard!
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If i'm being honest, I actually misread and thought Burl was out. I take back a little of what I said about him, but still think his strike rate is a little shocking. When you have wickets falling around you, yes you need to steady the ship, but you also need to add some pressure back on to the opposition by maybe just rotating the strike every now and again, and not just playing to block. Doing that will make the bowling team think twice.

We obviously cannot make Streak the worst coach in our history, particularly when you take in to account what happened in Sri Lanka, however it does pose the question, why are we so pumped up and in form when a new coach takes over but then forget everything after a while.

Zim coaches have had success all over the world, but when they come to coach their own, the players are horrible. Some questions need to be asked of the players and their mentality, as well as their willingness to improve. Their mindset and if it is one of playing to win or playing not to lose.

We can be fortunate that Streak does not abuse his players like a certain someone.
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grant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:59 am


pariah wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:11 am

Streak is surely the worst head coach in ZIM's history now. No other coach in such a short period, sunk to the kind of depths he has against opposition you least expect. Mediocrity at a premium.(Then again, even Whstmore was lauded for losing to AFG and IRE so why should Streak's treatment be surprising)

To think this is the man entrusted with surely means ZIM are half doomed already.


Yeah dude, we get it, we have sunk to such depths that we even beat Sri Lanka 3-2 in their own backyard!

Hami, Mire and Musakanda(by accident after Burl was injured)
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pariah wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:03 am


grant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:59 am


pariah wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:11 am

Streak is surely the worst head coach in ZIM's history now. No other coach in such a short period, sunk to the kind of depths he has against opposition you least expect. Mediocrity at a premium.(Then again, even Whstmore was lauded for losing to AFG and IRE so why should Streak's treatment be surprising)

To think this is the man entrusted with surely means ZIM are half doomed already.


Yeah dude, we get it, we have sunk to such depths that we even beat Sri Lanka 3-2 in their own backyard!

Hami, Mire and Musakanda(by accident after Burl was injured)


Raza and Chatara contributed greatly too. Others didn't do badly either.

So what you basically mean is that when we win, it's the players who are responsible and the coach doesn't deserve any credit but when we lose, it's the coach to blame! #hhmlogic

What were the players doing under other coaches?

pariah wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:03 am

Hami, Mire and Musakanda(by accident after Burl was injured)


Yeah okay so be it,They were a part of heath streak's team right?His move to stick with mire at the top proved to be a masterstroke then.
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Burl has missed out big time here. His SR in this match was shocking. You cannot be at the crease for that long and only score 17. There are always moments for everyone to step up, and these matches are those moments. If you fail to step up, you fail to succeed.

The dame people who grolified Chakabva duck of 30 ball...vilify Burl 17 runs of 81 balls..
Hopefully Chibhabha will be picked over Mire..his bowling would be much useful
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It was Taylor who had been dismissed first ball yesterday, not Cremer. Cricinfo has updated the score card.
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:05 pm

It was Taylor who had been dismissed first ball yesterday, not Cremer. Cricinfo has updated the score card.


...which just makes things worse!

Burl and Chibhabha going at it hammer and tongs.
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