You have 8 Harare clubs and 6 Bulawayo clubs feed a 4 pointed franchise system. Roughly one in 5 club players thereabout play first class professionally.
Sadly I would argue that Bulawayo only has four first league sides?
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gargamel wrote: I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection.
Can you tell a little more about this?
A bridge between Club and Franchise cricket has long been a necessity, could this be it? Also, would there be any kind of "promotion" available to the province that wins this competition.
I disagree. Why does there need to be a bridge?
There are 8 clubs in Harare that play competitive cricket that feeds into the franchise system.
8.
Let's put this into perspective. Imagine if Manchester United had 8 teams feeding into it?
The jump isn't from club to franchise.
The jump is franchise to international that is too much for some.
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Zimdoggy is right. 1st League and Franchise cricket here is literally the same standard.
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aydee wrote:
gargamel wrote: I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection.
Can you tell a little more about this?
A bridge between Club and Franchise cricket has long been a necessity, could this be it? Also, would there be any kind of "promotion" available to the province that wins this competition.
I disagree. Why does there need to be a bridge?
There are 8 clubs in Harare that play competitive cricket that feeds into the franchise system.
8.
Let's put this into perspective. Imagine if Manchester United had 8 teams feeding into it?
The jump isn't from club to franchise.
The jump is franchise to international that is too much for some.
That works fine for the Eagles. But cricket development in the rest of the country can't be completely ignored. Sure, much of the talent is Harare concentrated at present. But that should be something that to be changed, rather than encouraged, surely?
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You want to increase cricketing participation in development areas? Fine, and that's noble. How is creating first class teams there going to help? Wouldn't you be looking at creating local friendly competitions ?
First class should be very tough to break but reality is its just on par with decent club teams. It's a worry.
You have 8 Harare clubs and 6 Bulawayo clubs feed a 4 pointed franchise system. Roughly one in 5 club players thereabout play first class professionally.
In Australia it would be 1 in 2000 get that privilege.
It's not like a casino where you build it and they will come, nor are franchises money spinners with bumper crowds.
My suggestion is keep it at four and have a best of five Harare v Bulawayo team. Create the extra level on top. Like possibles v probables they do.
First class should be very tough to break but reality is its just on par with decent club teams. It's a worry.
You have 8 Harare clubs and 6 Bulawayo clubs feed a 4 pointed franchise system. Roughly one in 5 club players thereabout play first class professionally.
In Australia it would be 1 in 2000 get that privilege.
It's not like a casino where you build it and they will come, nor are franchises money spinners with bumper crowds.
My suggestion is keep it at four and have a best of five Harare v Bulawayo team. Create the extra level on top. Like possibles v probables they do.
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gargamel wrote:I strongly disagree that the player pool is small and i would advocate for having two additional franchises. There is a serious need to bring back the Southern Rocks who i think were a competitive LIST A side they did win the Metbank T20 and the Pro50 showing some sort of potential in the south east of Zimbabwe. The other squad should be an u23 academy squad that has the kids from the under 19 team cutting their teeth at a higher level. The truth is that we need is more games and a longer season. We simply play little cricket.
Why is there a 'serious need'?
-Us having a small player pool is just a fact? Its not really something thart can be argued against.My personal cricket association, conmsisting of teams across 8 sydney suburbs (sydney has 152 suburbs) has more cricket teams that Harare.
-An u/23 academy team will only be about level with a club side. So by all means have this squad team, but in the Harare metro league.
-Adding franchises will damage zimbabwean cricket immensely. The gulf is TOO WIDE betwee international and the Logan cup. Widening it wont help.
-costs. We are already broke, why add unneccessary expenses.
We should go to a three wy franchise system with emphasis on expanding club level.
Anyone even close to being good enough to playing for Zim, will be playing franchise, believe me.
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gargamel wrote:The truth is that we need is more games and a longer season. We simply play little cricket.
This I definitely agree with.
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The club scene in Zimbabwe should really be at the level of our first class cricket. The key to a successful domestic structure is a strong club scene, not just adding more first class teams so everyone gets chosen.
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There is a status quo at the franchises.
When 1st league clubs are at full strength they are just as good as any franchise. The club scene is strong. Remember I am an eye witness.
The average franchise player gets 300 bucks a month for 5 months of the year. U could earn alot more being a local gardener. ZC are not short of money, believe me. Its just the fat useless ZC imbassils funneling it all through into their pockets. It wont change.
When 1st league clubs are at full strength they are just as good as any franchise. The club scene is strong. Remember I am an eye witness.
The average franchise player gets 300 bucks a month for 5 months of the year. U could earn alot more being a local gardener. ZC are not short of money, believe me. Its just the fat useless ZC imbassils funneling it all through into their pockets. It wont change.
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Mueddie28 wrote:i saw something in NATHAN WALLER & SOME IDIOTS MADE FUN OF ME
I wonder why?
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