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[Match Thread] Logan Cup - Tuskers v Mountaineers Dec 3 - 6

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pariah wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:29 pm

An Ian Kaia coming in at 7 and getting a half ton makes me happy. If only Kasuza was at 6 and they were in a lovely partnership.

Today ENG have Root at 3 and Australia have an excellent Smith at 3(often). This wouldn't have been possible if they were sacrificed at County/Shield level.

ZIm is breaking all its best prospects. Just look at how good Chari is. That boy can play. He can really play. But plenty of tough times against the Chataras, Shingis, Chinouyas and Panyangaras etc make it hard for you.

Regis Chakabva is perhaps the best example of what can happen if a good player is not sacrificed too early in their career. It's no wonder he is by far Zimbabwe's best batsman after this senior generation leaves.

It's part of the reason why you will see a Mutombodzi do well in international cricket. For the same reason it's not an accident to see Prince Masvaure not look out of his depth at A or international level. Confidence breeds success, and you build confidence through proper management and introduction to the game.

The sad reality is that batsmen like Malcolm and Mutumbami simply have natural deficiencies in their stance etc which are awkward and wrong. Craig is more assured than them, and that's translated into him doing better than them despite batting in that 5/6 region for some time. Timecyn Maruma is another who has enough confidence and exposure now to back him to do well.

I would bet a lot of money on Jongwe/Nathan getting a Test century than Burl/Kamunhukamwe. It's part of the reason why some people think a Wiaan Mulder is a great prospect. Wait until he bats high like Stiaan van Zyl. He will either be a weaker batsman or bowler. Most likely he will end up being a bowler who can bat a bit or a batsman who bowls seam occasionally.

Out of interest, what is a Mitchell Marsh who bats at number 4 or a Mitchell Marsh who bats at number 8?


You don’t seem to know to much about Aussie cricket , Siddle only bowls at 125 now since his back problems while ncn hits 140 with decent out swing to a right hander , was all over Kohli in the one dayers. Smith always bats at 4 unless they are playing in Asia / subcontinent ect and still uzzy always gets a test to fail then be dropped for someone which enables smith to move to 3 . Talking about Mitch Marsh is just stupid he’s had a lot of chances and proven he’s a white ball player , maybe in a few years when his hot head calms down he might be ready. Until then should be no where near the test team and my theory of 6 bests bats , best wicket keeper and your 4 best bowlers is proven right again by the selectors . This all rounder crap is nonsense , just like your comments about Aus cricketers . Please stop worrying about people’s ages , it makes no sense judging someone on age , it’s childish and shows how not

Open to anything you are . A lot like your racist comments always shunting white people. You have so much to offer this forum yet you constantly try argue and make ridiculous arguments with no commen sense and ignore when you are wrong or simply don’t reply, wonder how old you are ? Never wanted to share that one did you bud ?
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Wickets and runs for Tiripano and Shingi

I said it before that I won’t be surprised if they’re both in the Boxing Day Test side
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:31 am

Wickets and runs for Tiripano and Shingi

I said it before that I won’t be surprised if they’re both in the Boxing Day Test side


One week holiday tour of South Africa :) Cricket will just be a formality. Its surely be the begining of four day test under tier 2 system for Zimbabwe.
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It’s one or the other for me they are to similar and I’d rather Donald only because of his lesser economy rate of late .
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Well given that the current senior players are hardly playing any cricket to speak of Tiripano could easily make the team as a batsman. He has really been putting the runs on the board he should perhaps try batting higher for the goats. I saw somewhere that Shingi actually opens the batting at club level. Nyauchi and Masuku just going about their business this season leading wicket takers. No one can take the ball from Masuku bowling 27 overs and getting due reward with 4 wickets.
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As Conant said, Shingi's economy rate scares me a bit. But we can even try to fit them both in for the Boxing Day - Tiripano and Shingi that is. Here goes:

Hamilton

The Don

Taylor

Ervine

Moor

Raza

Regis

Shingi

Cremer

Jarvis

Chatara

There are question marks over Chatara's fitness again with him missing now. Hope nothing serious.
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Don deserves to play on merit but knowing Taibu the team was selected a long time ago. if we play a standard 7-4 then Don has to play
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pariah wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:29 pm

Ian Kaia coming in at 7


Who?
Really, considering they offer a fairly similar set of skills, there is only room for one out of Don and Shingi in the test team. Personally I would lean towards Tiripano on the basis that he has bowled better so far this Logan Cup season.
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Zero76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:12 am

Really, considering they offer a fairly similar set of skills, there is only room for one out of Don and Shingi in the test team. Personally I would lean towards Tiripano on the basis that he has bowled better so far this Logan Cup season.


Yeah, can't dispute that.
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Zero76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:12 am

Really, considering they offer a fairly similar set of skills, there is only room for one out of Don and Shingi in the test team. Personally I would lean towards Tiripano on the basis that he has bowled better so far this Logan Cup season.


Streak likes a long batting lineup so I still think there’s a chance we see both on Boxing Day

Although Streak loves Bobby so we might not see either of them

Long batting side *

Cremer

Tiripano

Shingi

KJ / Chatara

Likely side *

Cremer

KJ

Chatara

Mpofu
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:01 pm

As Conant said, Shingi's economy rate scares me a bit. But we can even try to fit them both in for the Boxing Day - Tiripano and Shingi that is. Here goes:

Hamilton

The Don

Taylor

Ervine

Moor

Raza

Regis

Shingi

Cremer

Jarvis

Chatara

There are question marks over Chatara's fitness again with him missing now. Hope nothing serious.


The Don opening! :D :D :D :)

I wouldn't change your team. :)

I see people have run out of patience with Williams.


Zero76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:12 am

Really, considering they offer a fairly similar set of skills, there is only room for one out of Don and Shingi in the test team. Personally I would lean towards Tiripano on the basis that he has bowled better so far this Logan Cup season.


I don't know if they offer a similar set of skills. To be specific Shingi is a wicket taker and the Don is a container. He takes wickets at Logan Cup but as we saw last month and in Sri Lanka, not enough to trouble batsmen at international level.
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Williams looks to be back to some sort of form

Quality attack he’s up against and 65* at the moment

Does anyone know what has happened to Natsai M’shangwe??
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It’s good to see Williams making some handy runs but PJ made his runs when it mattered and deserves to keep his spot. As much as I think PJ will struggle against SA , he just keeps playing well in the test arena and you cannot fault the man for that.The more pressure on the squad the better it is for zim cricket anyway.
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CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:28 am


Zero76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:12 am

Really, considering they offer a fairly similar set of skills, there is only room for one out of Don and Shingi in the test team. Personally I would lean towards Tiripano on the basis that he has bowled better so far this Logan Cup season.


Yeah, can't dispute that.


To imply Tiripano is on par with Shingi is to imply Tiripano is better than Jarvis and Vitori.

The best 3 new ball bowlers in Zim are:

1.Panyangara

2.Chatara

3.Shingi

The only other bowlers at that level are Rainsford, Hondo and Elton(all three preinjury).

The reality is Vitori and Jarvis still have a lot to prove at Test level. Even Mpofu has been more consistent than them in a way. (pace hurts Mpariwa and Meth)

Tiripano (and Chinouya) are nowhere near Shingi.
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Being South African and hearing Zim cricket fans discuss Tiripano opening plus throwing in an unfit Chatara as well as a Jarvis who can't bend his back much more than Bruce James, makes one wonder why ZIM is even playing a Boxing Day Test against a star-studded Proteas if the fans aren't even bothered about the event. Even worse with the insistence on a mascot Sean Williams.
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pariah wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:42 pm

Bruce James


Who?

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